<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kaillou:</div><div class="quote_post">I dont think Mo is suited to being a sixth man at all. I think Mo needs to be on the floor taking shots to find his rhythm, when he spends long amounts of time on the bench he can really get cold and his game is completely off. When Mo Pete gets hot though, he can keep draining jumpers all on ur grill like they aint no big deal. I want Rose out of Toronto personally, when Vince got traded it all but solidified a time for change in Toronto, and Jalen Rose is not part of that change. Get him out one way or another.. I dont even think he wants to be here anymore.</div> It's obvious Rose isn't part of the future plans for the Raps, but unless they can trade him for Eddie Jones in some deal, he's staying in Toronto, because he's not tradebale. The same thing happened last year with Rose; Cartwright made him come off the bench, and well, after a few games he got traded. As long as we have Rose though, he should be starting, because keeping him on the bench is going tomake him less effective than he already is starting. And are we Talking about the same Morris Peterson? Mo has been the same for the past 5 years when he's started. He'll score 16 one night, 5 the next, 3 the game after, 13 the nextgame , 0 points the next game after, 11 points the game after etc. He's more inconsistent as a starter compared to as a bench player. If he comes off the bench, he'll still be part of the Zoo Crew that can give you points in many ways. There's not as much pressure on him when he comes off bench, which allows him to perform better. Plus, the Zoo Crew is the one thing you got working for you, I don't see why you should break it up. I think Eric and Jalen can work together down low.
Yea, I agree. Jalen is a much better starter than MoPete, but I think Mitchell can afford to puta tight leash on him now. If Rose starts jacking up stupid shots and playing lazy D, he can put in Mo right away. It makes sure that Jalen's style doesn't spread to everywhere else, and allows Mo to provide a spark off the bench.
I disagree with starting Jalen. I think that his lackluster effort and ill-advised shots will ruin the efficiency of our starting line. We saw how earlier in the year our starting line would suck it up and our Zoo Crew would bring us back into the game. If we have a stronger defender (Mo Pete) in the starting line, we should have enough offense through Rafer, Williams, and Bosh. With some help through Mo Pete. When we are struggling on offense, we can bring in Jalen, because he is a more gifted offensive player who can create his own shots. If you look at Boston, Ricky Davis is a stronger offensive player than Jiri Welsh, however they need an offensive scorer when the starters are on the bench, so that is what Davis does. Also see Antonio Daniels as backup PG for seattle, however I believe he is scoring more than Ridnour.
I definately agree that as long as Jalen is in Toronto he needs to be starting, but Morris Petterson needs to get into a rhythm or his game is completely off, which is why I like him starting. What I was trying to say was that Rose is not part of the future plans, and the trade of Vince officially made it a new era in Toronto, and a new team to build around.. if Rose isnt going to be part of those plans, get rid of him. Build the team that you're going to build and start building now, so by the time next year rolls around (or hopefully this year), we'll be ready for the playoffs. I think this team has a lot of talent and we could potentailly be a contending team, but its time to start working as a team and get the rhythm going, something I havent seen the Raptors be able to do for a good 3 years now.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kaillou:</div><div class="quote_post">if Rose isnt going to be part of those plans, get rid of him. Build the team that you're going to build and start building now, .</div> If we want to win games, we should start Mo Pete, because of his defensive ability. If we want to pump Jalen's value and trade him, then we should start Jalen. We should trade Jalen closer to deadline, because as the deadline approaches teams that want to make playoffs are willing to give a little more to make the push.
i dont think that starting jalen will pump his value at all...jalen is doing the same thing in toronto he's always done. coaches know what they are getting when they get jalen whether he starts or comes off the bench imo furthermore...you could look at it from the standpoint, that if we bring jalen off the bench, he can still come in and give us 15, 3 and 3...those kinds of numbers would make him a strong candidate for 6th man of the year...he could up his trade stock just by playing really well as a 6th man. but either way, im kind of indifferent on the subject. he is a starter in this league...eric williams gives us defense in the starting line-up and jalen gives us a good scoring punch at the 2-spot. its not his defense that i think is such a liability when he's on the court...its his ill-advised shot selection at times that hurts us
bottom line If Jalen starts 1)Bosh wont get the opportunity to get going early 2)The team wont play D. Why should Bosh work hard on D if Jalens not Jalen shouldnt start...he shouldnt be a first sub. Anyone that wants Jalen to play hasnt been watching that many games...more often than not he's hurt the Raptors. And NO one is gunna develope their games (ie. Bosh, Mo, Bonner, Alston) as long as Jalen is dominating the ball offensively, jaking up stupid shots and then not getting back on D.
^ so we can suck, not develop our young guys, not play any defence, and piss the hell out of our fans from the double teamed off balance 4 feet behind the line 3's??? i cant say i agree to you. I see no benefit in starting Rose.
Damn, I posted in the wrong thread...Suppose to be in the suns thread <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post">^ so we can suck, not develop our young guys, not play any defence, and piss the hell out of our fans from the double teamed off balance 4 feet behind the line 3's??? i cant say i agree to you. I see no benefit in starting Rose.</div> That post was complete pointless because it was not relevant to my post, and my post was not relevant to this thread.
