Official: JBB 2005 NBA Mock Draft Rnd 1 (v1.0)

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  1. KICKSDADDY613

    KICKSDADDY613 JBB JustBBall Member

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    No, You Are Correct On Mardy Collins. He Is Indeed A 6-5 Point Guard, And Is Projected To Be So By Nba Scouts. His Size And Handle And Ability To Run A Team Is Exactly Why They Love Him And He Has Been Projected As A Sleep And Has The Ability To Sneak Into Late Lottery Mid First Round.

    <font color="Red">Please do not capitalize the first letter of every word in the reply. It makes it much more difficult to read.

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  2. Shapecity

    Shapecity S2/JBB Teamster Staff Member Administrator

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">no way sheldon is going that high, no way the Knicks will pass on Splitter .... aside from that it was a better mock draft than i have seen almost anywhere else.</div> As a Knick fan and with Isiah as a GM, you should never use the words "no way" in the same sentence. Isiah Thomas often takes the trendy pick, we believe Petro will be that player this year. Tiago Splitter disappointed so bad last year in workouts he pulled himself out of the draft. I've seen him play this season, and he's pretty much the same player he was last year. He's a piss poor defender and does not have the rebounding instincts needed to be successful in the NBA. He's gotten stronger and bigger, but is still a soft player.

    To solve the Mardy Collins debate I've listed him as a PG/SG.
     
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    Just a note, I just heard on ESPNNews by Andy Katz that Charlie Villanueva, UConn player is leaning toward the NBA draft. If he declares he has to stay in because there is some kind of rule where you can't declare twice and drop out twice. Charlie in my mind will probably go anywhere from mid to late lottery, because of the 'P' word (potentail) and his low post offence and defence.
     
  4. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Charlie kind of reminds me of Odom, just not as atheletic. He is long and lanky, he can score and rebound.

    I agree with Courtking, he could go anywhere from 8-16 IMO based off of potential.
     
  5. Bodiddly14

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    Does Juan Mendez not even get a honorable mention I think he is a late first rounder for a good team...
     
  6. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bodiddly14:</div><div class="quote_post">Does Juan Mendez not even get a honorable mention I think he is a late first rounder for a good team...</div>Please read Post#1 (specifically the summary on top) and Post#17
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    Since the Warriors got Baron,they have been hot and now seem more apt to pick 6-7,at best and I would be quite pleased with Sheldon W at that slot. Petro still has to show some skills and some work habits-I think he'd wait another year. I think Villaneueva will enter and get taken after Frye who has similar tools,better work habits and consistancy. Salim's slot will depend on how sure a team is he can convert to point. A strong tournament show will get Julius Hodge into rd 1. I think Ike Diogu will enter and go top 15. I also think Marvin Williams will wait a year-his D really is weak,if he gets it togather,top 3 is very possible.
     
  8. KICKSDADDY613

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting REREM:</div><div class="quote_post">Since the Warriors got Baron,they have been hot and now seem more apt to pick 6-7,at best and I would be quite pleased with Sheldon W at that slot. Petro still has to show some skills and some work habits-I think he'd wait another year. I think Villaneueva will enter and get taken after Frye who has similar tools,better work habits and consistancy. Salim's slot will depend on how sure a team is he can convert to point. A strong tournament show will get Julius Hodge into rd 1. I think Ike Diogu will enter and go top 15. I also think Marvin Williams will wait a year-his D really is weak,if he gets it togather,top 3 is very possible.</div>


    ^^^^^DID WE NOT SEE HIM DESTROY HIS OPPONENTS IN THE FIRST 2 ROUNDS. NOT JUST OFFENSE HERE, WHEN HE WAS IN THE GAME, HE LOCKED, AND I MEAN LOCKED HIS PLAYER ON D!
     
  9. Mamba

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    KICKSDADDY613 just for your info, capitalizing the whole post is equivelant to shouting at a member and is against JBB guidelines.
     
  10. Mr. J

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">As a Knick fan and with Isiah as a GM, you should never use the words "no way" in the same sentence. Isiah Thomas often takes the trendy pick, we believe Petro will be that player this year. Tiago Splitter disappointed so bad last year in workouts he pulled himself out of the draft. I've seen him play this season, and he's pretty much the same player he was last year. He's a piss poor defender and does not have the rebounding instincts needed to be successful in the NBA. He's gotten stronger and bigger, but is still a soft player.</div>
    What do you mean by the "trendy" pick? He made some very good draft selections and I really do have faith in him. I have been to many Mocks and they have been quite erratic. My question to you is Johan Petro really 260? Some say that he is 230. If he is 260 it will be an automatic plus. Also may you please elaborate on Splitter a bit? From what I've seen and heard, he is a very athletic player and a very good shot blocker. In the Knick forum, a lot of us are sold on him. Is he really that risky? Also which San Antonio pick do the Knicks have. Hopefully with the absence of Duncan, the Spurs pick will increase in position. [​IMG]
     
  11. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">What do you mean by the "trendy" pick? He made some very good draft selections and I really do have faith in him. I have been to many Mocks and they have been quite erratic. My question to you is Johan Petro really 260? Some say that he is 230. If he is 260 it will be an automatic plus. Also may you please elaborate on Splitter a bit? From what I've seen and heard, he is a very athletic player and a very good shot blocker. In the Knick forum, a lot of us are sold on him. Is he really that risky? Also which San Antonio pick do the Knicks have. Hopefully with the absence of Duncan, the Spurs pick will increase in position. [​IMG]</div>
    "Trendy" picks are not necessarily bad ones. Damon Stoudamire & Marcus Camby were trendy picks. These were players who received a lot of buzz around draft time. This year we predict John Petro will be that player, along with the fact the Knicks could use a 7 foot Center. Petro is not 230, he pretty muscular and if he did way only 230 for a 7 footer he'd be rail thin.

    The Knicks will basically have the Phoenix Suns 1st Round pick this year. It's a conditional pick, (I'm not sure what those conditions are), so right now it's still San Antonio's pick.

    What more do you want me to elaborate on Splitter? I've seen him play several times last year and this year. He's gotten thicker and stronger, but still doesn't know how to use his body and shys away from banging inside. His mid range game needs a lot of improvement. Let's put it this way, fellow countrymen Anderson Varejao is better than Splitter in every aspect of the game offensively and defensively.
     
  12. Mr. J

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">"Trendy" picks are not necessarily bad ones. Damon Stoudamire & Marcus Camby were trendy picks. These were players who received a lot of buzz around draft time. This year we predict John Petro will be that player, along with the fact the Knicks could use a 7 foot Center. Petro is not 230, he pretty muscular and if he did way only 230 for a 7 footer he'd be rail thin.</div>
    Oh, ok. I thought trendy as in overhyped and dissapoint to a certain level. I didn't know Petro was BROLIC! 260 is quite a lot of muscle. I'll keep that 230 rail thin stat in mind while looking at other 7 foot players.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Knicks will basically have the Phoenix Suns 1st Round pick this year. It's a conditional pick, (I'm not sure what those conditions are), so right now it's still San Antonio's pick.</div>
    So basically depending on how the Suns do, the Knicks will get that pick.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">What more do you want me to elaborate on Splitter? I've seen him play several times last year and this year. He's gotten thicker and stronger, but still doesn't know how to use his body and shys away from banging inside. His mid range game needs a lot of improvement. Let's put it this way, fellow countrymen Anderson Varejao is better than Splitter in every aspect of the game offensively and defensively.</div>
    The reason why I liked Splitter is because I thought he was a good defender, a decent midrange shooter who can be a shot blocking machine with his wingspan combined with his athleticism. My original thoughts on him was that he would be an immediate contributor. I thought he could average maybe 25mpg//9ppg//4.5rpg//1.0apg//and 1.0bpg. I even thought his athleticism was so great he can play center. You're making him sound as if he is a second round talent. Anderson was #30 in the draft (not sure why), but if it is due to talent, than no way I would want him for an 8th pick. It sounds like he is very close to being a huge dissapintment. What are good things about him that might want someone to take him in the lottery. The way you are descrbing him, he sounds like a bum.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">As a Knick fan and with Isiah as a GM, you should never use the words "no way" in the same sentence. </div>
    touche
     
  14. KICKSDADDY613

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">KICKSDADDY613 just for your info, capitalizing the whole post is equivelant to shouting at a member and is against JBB guidelines.</div>

    well, when i'm posting from my office, and our systems require caps lock, which AUTOMATICLY stays on, we can not take it off, so, therefore, i dont need a lesson on the caps deal. I know it eaquals shouting, as does it in every forum all over the net. I am very aware of the whole all caps deal, my appologies if I offended you. [​IMG]
     
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    Lol.. Sry I must have missed that... Thanks
     
  16. Mr. J

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    Why is Martynas so high? He is projected by many as the next Ilguaskas and even so, why would that beat out so many other great talents.
     
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    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Why is Martynas so high? He is projected by many as the next Ilguaskas and even so, why would that beat out so many other great talents.</div>

    Just because some other websites compare him to Ilgauskas it doesn't mean that he'll turn out to be exactly like Ilgauskas. He has a similar skills set as Ilgauskas, but he has the potential to be better. Besides, what is wrong with draft an Ilgauskas? I know most teams would draft a player if they knew he'd give them an Ilgauskas-type performance. I like where we have Mary right now.

    By the way, we'll have the second round of the JustBBall.Com Mock Draft up very soon. Check back for that.
     
  18. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Why is Martynas so high? He is projected by many as the next Ilguaskas and even so, why would that beat out so many other great talents.</div> You can't teach 7'3. The Warriors can afford to wait on him to develop. The Warriors are 2 deep at every position and developing Martynas for the next 2 or 3 years could payoff big for them. The draft is usually about "potential" and Martynas has tremendous "potential" because of his size and agility. Last year he was projected as a top 3 pick, but he had some contract problems scaring off teams and didn't feel he was ready. He's improved since last year and basically he's a low risk, high return pick for Golden State.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">Just because some other websites compare him to Ilgauskas it doesn't mean that he'll turn out to be exactly like Ilgauskas. He has a similar skills set as Ilgauskas, but he has the potential to be better. Besides, what is wrong with draft an Ilgauskas? I know most teams would draft a player if they knew he'd give them an Ilgauskas-type performance. I like where we have Mary right now.

    By the way, we'll have the second round of the JustBBall.Com Mock Draft up very soon. Check back for that.</div>
    I'm not questioning this mock, I'm just saying why does everyone think so highly of him? Big Z is definitely a good center, but Nemaja is projected as the next Dirk, and Splitter is projected as the next Gasol. Those players are better than Z, so why aren't they as high?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not questioning this mock, I'm just saying why does everyone think so highly of him? Big Z is definitely a good center, but Nemaja is projected as the next Dirk, and Splitter is projected as the next Gasol. Those players are better than Z, so why aren't they as high?</div>Read post #38
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    Who is projecting Splitter as the next Gasol, because they are both Spainish? Their games have few similarities. Gasol plays from the outside-in because defenders have to respect his mid range jumper. Splitter likes to setup inside and use his post moves to score. Splitter is a terrible rebounder for his size as well. They actually show him play a lot on NBA TV. If you want to judge for yourself just tune in when they show the International games.
     

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