Official Jerami Grant trade rumors/ideas thread

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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    I think the Cavs kind of make sense as a team that would be interested in Jerami as they're underperforming and might be at risk of losing Donovan Mitchell if they don't improve in a hurry. The trouble is, they have no picks to trade, essentially, so it would basically be a dump, although I'm interested in Isiah Mobley just because, you know, Summer League MVP. Sounds like somebody Schmidtz (sp) might be intrigued by.
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    Why would you want to dump Grant? He has value. That's a god awful trade.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Yeah, the only way it makes sense to trade Grant is if we have a young power forward that we want to develop.

    I'm not seeing that with Walker. He's a nice backup but he's not a starter.
     
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    Jerami Grant is 9 years younger than Lebron James.

    He's not a high-contact high-jumping type of player. He could be doing what he's doing now for many more years.

    Grant is very good at handling the ball in space and on the fast break and finishing.

    He's also a very good 3-point shooter, and his height and high release make him a good end-of-game catch-and-shoot option.

    He fits great with the young players on the team who need that taller guy to throw the ball to in the corner.

    What player is going to replace what Grant does at his size?
     
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    Players seem to be better about taking care of their bodies these days. He reminds me a bit of Cliff Robinson, who didn't really start declining till 34.
     
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    You’re dumping Grant’s salary. Issac isn’t good enough for me to want him to be a long term starter. I would expect two 1sts with that package.

    This isn’t even a salary dump, you’re taking on 3 years of Niang and 2 years of Rubio. Niang is just a 3 point shooter. What do we need Rubio for?
     
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    - the Vulcans like salary dumps.
    - agree, Cronin needs picks
    - Rubio, a 6m veteran shooting coach for Scoot ?
     
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    I don't think they would have resigned him just to dump his salary. If they did want to dump him, they'd get an expiring, and at least picks/young players with upside.
     
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    - I forgot they like dumping assets for nothing as well. This is dumping an asset for nothing. If they knew Dame was out and wanted to dump salaries, they might as well have not re-signed Grant, cause that deal was a bunch of nothing.
    - The original trade proposal didn’t have any picks
    - in what world would you want a career 32.4% 3pt shooter to be Scoot’s coach? That’s one expensive shooting coach.
     
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    These are all the shortest contracts the Cavs have to unload. Niang is not JUST a three point shooter, but that's certainly of value in our system. Rubio has all-but-retired - he probably would if traded. But if not, he'd be the only true PG on our roster and Ayton would probably love to play with him.

    It's a pretty shitty offer, true, but it does get rid of a lot of years of Grant's salary, and I can't see many teams other than a desperate near-contender like the Cavs wanting Jerami.
     
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    Duh, clearly they didn't. Signing Grant was OBVIOUSLY a desperate bid to keep Dame, because he'd more-or-less demanded it.
     
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    Isn't Camara effectively our PF when he starts next to Grant? You just cannot have a PF who gets 5.3 rebounds per 48(!). Grant is handily out-rebounded by Brogdon! Georges "just a shooter" Niang gets 8.5 rebounds per 48!
     
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    This site has a way of tracking who are effectively the biggest gunners (or rather, players who score but do nothing else) in the league. Here's the chart for this season:

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    Surprising to see Scoot there, given that he's a pretty crappy scorer, but crappy as he is, he's been doing little else of value up until recently. But Grant is what he is. And what he is is not a PF.
     
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    I think Brogs is gone by the deadline. Grant will be dealt if someone offers something good, but I don't think the Blazers have any sense of urgency in wanting to move him, because we really have nothing at Forward.

    But Brogdon is sort of an odd man out with the return if Simons. They're going to want to continue to develop Scoot off the bench.

    Brogdon should be in high demand.
     
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    You really think the Blazers were unaware of the whole situation and Dame made the choice to demand the request as soon as Grant got the contract? They knew Dame was going to ask out as soon as they selected Scoot, and they gave Grant the extension anyway. They clearly knew Grant has value, and they’re right, because I guarantee you their worst deal will be better than that one.
     
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    For comparison, here are the least-gunnery players:
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    I choose to believe otherwise, because that makes the Blazers' front office look incompetent. What do you offer to back up your "guarantee"?
     
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    Indy will be more than willing to give up Hield, Toppin, a 1st, and a 2nd for Grant no problem. And that’s the most realistic deal that people have come up with. It’s already way more than that Cavs offer. You could trade 2nds and attach win-now players to Hield to get another 1st.
     
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    I’ll give you $100, friendly bet. DM me your number, we can facetime and everything and we’ll discuss a bet if you’re actually up for it.

    We’ll say any 1st round pick beats that Cavs offer? Winner gets $100, venmo or zelle will work. My friend’s wife also interns for the Blazers, I’ll get you two 100 level seat if you win, but you’d have to put up the value of one 100 level ticket if you lose.

    Also, I personally am not going to care about this bet very much, so don’t come at me with the “why would I give my number to a stranger on the internet” schtick. You just asked me what I would offer, and I did. And also, saying I’m not going to care about the bet doesn’t mean I’m not going to care about you paying up if you take the deal. I’m very much going to care if I won and you would very much be an asshole for taking that bet and not paying up if you lose lol.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    You mean a bunch of dudes who are surrounded by people who can shoot?
     
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