hey, mchale managed to be like 500 with the wolves when he coached. and 500 would be amazing for the knicks next year so maybe......
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TwinTowers:</div><div class="quote_post">I was epecting this, but when Marbury was saying what seemed like nothing but good things about LB I thought he was staying.</div> It's ironic, it can be compared to what Stephon did to TT. He likes to make amends with the people he hates before they leave NY. What an asshole.
I thought teams were supposed to improve from year to year...the Knicks just have a habit of getting horribly worse every year. What will they do next offseason? The Wizards have interest in Brown, supposedly.
^^i'm not so sure i would want that. heruins every franchise he goes to. he will probably try to turn arenas into ai, and get rid of any talent around him.
Yeah, I'm not to fond of him going there, unless he gives Arenas what he wants, keeps Andray Blatche and Caron Butler, and wants to trade Antawn Jamison.
Very good for the Knicks, we benefit either way. If Isiah doesn't get fired, that means the team improved significantly.
Gunna be fun to watch Isiah coach this team into last place again. Then there will be no more excuses to make.... cant believe they paid larry 50 million for 5 years and they're cutting him loose for 1 year.
The only reason I can support this move, is that it puts Isiah Thomas in a very vulnerable situation. As a coach/GM/president, he's exhausted any other people to blame for this situation. If the Knicks screw up, and we all know they will, Isiah's almost guaranteed to be fired. I still think Larry Brown is the right coach for any situation, but the chance to completely rid yourself of Isiah is too good to miss.
wow...how much more out of control can isaiah's ego get? surely he doesnt think that he's the best and only person able to coach this "team"? is he actually going to keep francis AND marbury???
I think we're going to be exciting next year, now whether we win more than 15 games or not that's a different discussion. If Isiah finds gold this draft we might have a really fun, quick, athletic young team to watch.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">^^i'm not so sure i would want that. heruins every franchise he goes to. he will probably try to turn arenas into ai, and get rid of any talent around him.</div> Ruins every franchise? Are you forgetting Detroit 2003/2004, 2004/2005? Obviously. Not to mention the 76ers in 2000/2001. Brown is a great coach, he wasnt the problem, Isiah Thomas is the problem, making all those unecessary moves, trading/signing for all players with no heart, who care more about the size of their paycheck rather than the game. Get them out of there if you want to contend, because you're going nowhere with the current team.
I actually don't think the Knicks will be too bad next year. Not 23-59 kind of bad at least. While Brown might have been a good coach, he was a terrible fit for this team. I've said it once, I'll say it again: the Knicks were built to run and gun. Their halfcourt sets were terrible and they have no consistent shooters, so a simple zone can give us trouble. Getting out and getting easy buckets in transition is also another way to compensate for our lack of defense. The Knicks were 15-14 when scoring 100+ points. That's pretty good for them. Getting the Knicks out in transition will be key for them next season and Brown felt strongly opposed to getting out on the break. There should also be less than 44 different starting lineups, so I think we'll be improved. And if we're not, Isiah gets fired. Finally, we're in a win-win situation. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC187:</div><div class="quote_post"> Brown is a great coach, he wasnt the problem, Isiah Thomas is the problem, making all those unecessary moves, trading/signing for all players with no heart, who care more about the size of their paycheck rather than the game. Get them out of there if you want to contend, because you're going nowhere with the current team.</div> I don't like when people accuse Isiah but neglect Brown's contributions to the Knicks' record. Isiah didn't put a great team out on the court, and Brown didn't coach the team well. It's that simple. Brown got a $50 million contract to coach to the best of his abilities and he did not keep his end of the bargain. If you ask me, Brown is the one without the heart and concerned about the size of his pay check. What type of Hall of Fame coach would have 44 starting lineups? Although no one really established themselves as a full time starter, there is no excuse for Brown to have that many lineups. And the minutes distribution was terrible. He was giving undeserving players the minutes, while players like David Lee saw little floor time. He's very critical too. While this is the job of a coach, one must have some sort of boundaries. There wasn't any reason to call Ariza, of all people, delusional. Him going back and forth to the media about Marbury was also childish on both of their parts. Only thing is Marbury is 29; Brown is 62 (correct me if I'm wrong). And what so many people have forgotten is the fact Larry Brown has said HE needs to do a better job coaching. People blame Isiah for bringing in "selfish players", most notably Jalen Rose and Steve Francis. First of all, Rose has been more productive for us than Antonio Davis. Secondly, we got the 20th pick in the draft, giving us more flexible to make moves and improve the roster. And Francis, while selfish, can't be blamed because the Knicks were done before he was acquired. Francis wasn't meant to be in Knicks' longterm plans, but rather a pawn to be used this offseason. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Wow, this team will never get any consistency if they just keep making random moves.</div> While I agree, I don't think we should call this a "random move".
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Wow, this team will never get any consistency if they just keep making random moves.</div> Exactly.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC187:</div><div class="quote_post">Ruins every franchise? Are you forgetting Detroit 2003/2004, 2004/2005? Obviously. Not to mention the 76ers in 2000/2001. Brown is a great coach, he wasnt the problem, Isiah Thomas is the problem, making all those unecessary moves, trading/signing for all players with no heart, who care more about the size of their paycheck rather than the game. Get them out of there if you want to contend, because you're going nowhere with the current team.</div> the pistons are fading, and the sixers are a lottery team now. he sets up his teams for one maybe two good years, then they are screwed. the sixers are in horrible cap troubles, and if it wasnt for that darko trade detroit would be too. but since big ben wants out, they are going to be pretty poor in a year or two.
All I can say is 2006-07 Knicks will be entertaining. If Isaiah's team that he assembled and coaches next year horribly fails it will crack me up for him to see how bad a GM he is. It'll be sad for Isaiah to get fired though, he was entertaining. From a Knick fan perspective though (as some others pointed out) its a win-win situation. If Isaiah does badly he probably will be fired as GM, if Isaiah makes playoffs Knicks fans are happy.
I'm glad they fired Brown because he wasn't going to get anything done in NY because they couldn't trade for the players he wanted. Having Isiah as head coach should be interesting, I'm quite sure he will be able to improve on last seasons record but then again with the knicks recent luck you never know what could happen...GO Knicks!
Does thomas have pictures of the owner raping a goat or something? How in the world does he 1. not only have his job...but 2. be named the head coach? Isaiah should have lost his job long ago.
The only good thing I would like to see is that Isiah proves his worthlessness as a coach and GM and never gets an important job in the NBA ever again. He is an embarassment, IMO. I don't need to list the things he has done as a coach and league owner(CBA).
