Official New Jersey Nets #1 pick Status Thread..........

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by THE HCP, Mar 15, 2012.

  1. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    10,684
    Likes Received:
    2,779
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    While I am rooting for NJ to NOT finish in the top 3 of the lottery, I think that your thinking will definitely give me some solace. We can also remind ourselves that we can't control things at all, so we might as well look at the bright side of how they turn out, huh?

    Ed O.
     
  2. RoyToy

    RoyToy Clown Town

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    10,977
    Likes Received:
    297
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Count me as someone who won't be upset if the Blazers don't get the pick.
     
  3. crowTrobot

    crowTrobot die comcast

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    4,597
    Likes Received:
    208
    Trophy Points:
    63
    i wouldn't be upset if we don't, but i think it's certainly a huge advantage to get the pick this year.

    we need assets around LMA now (whomever we pick or whatever vets the pick facilitates aquiring).

    also i think it's most likely deron will re-sign with NJ. with deron + a top 3 pick, (which they could well offer + expiring for howard), you have to assume the pick next year wouldn't be that great.
     
  4. Charcoal Filtered

    Charcoal Filtered Writing Team

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2009
    Messages:
    4,739
    Likes Received:
    2,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think there will be more people in Portland following (or caring about) the NJ/Tor season finale than both of those cities combined. Huge game for us.
     
  5. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2008
    Messages:
    22,663
    Likes Received:
    15,098
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So who is the answer? We will need a guard who can shoot. Who in your opinion is the best shooting guard in the draft?
    Rivers measured 6'5" in shoes with a 6'7" reach. (Draftexxpress)
    NBAdraft.net gives him a 9/10 for shooting and athleticism.

    What I do know is what I saw from him, he takes and makes difficult shots. But I am open to hear who is better at his position.

    Here are two quotes from Draft express:

    "It was Rivers' athleticism and scoring instincts that made him the catalyst for the Blue Devils offense and defined his role as freshman"

    "A crafty ball-handler with no shortage of shifty hesitation moves or blistering cross-overs, Rivers showed the ability to create separation from his defender in one-on-one situations"

    From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz1svzi3VFM
    http://www.draftexpress.com
     
  6. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2009
    Messages:
    30,672
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired, while you work!
    Since this draft is supposedly much stronger than next year, the #6 pick this year is much better than the #6 player next year.
     
  7. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    69,949
    Likes Received:
    57,937
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    N.E.P.
    The New Jersey pick: The Nets remain in a tie with Toronto for the sixth-worst record at 22-42. Because teams that finish with the same record add, then divide, their combinations, if the season ended today, the Nets and Raptors would each have 53 combinations. So the Nets' odds of getting a top-three pick right now would be:
    No. 1 pick: 5.3 percent
    No. 2 pick: 6.0 percent
    No. 3 pick: 7.3 percent
     
  8. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2009
    Messages:
    30,672
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired, while you work!
    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/18787737/baseline-awards-42312-james-going-away
     
  9. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,588
    Likes Received:
    56,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    This was our scenario in 07 when we got #1.
     
  10. ant

    ant egg

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    564
    Likes Received:
    369
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I think they play each other for the season finale, so it's impossible for NJ and TOR to end in a tie now.
     
  11. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    40,823
    Likes Received:
    25,043
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    So you're saying that if we were .7% "unluckier" we'd have Durant now?
     
  12. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    44,272
    Likes Received:
    26,815
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Or 97% smart enough not to pick someone who had red flags in their physical
     
  13. BoBoBREWSKI

    BoBoBREWSKI BURP!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    13,852
    Likes Received:
    4,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NW
    A dead horse called and asked you to stop beating it.
     
  14. Blaze01

    Blaze01 JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2004
    Messages:
    2,106
    Likes Received:
    50
    Trophy Points:
    48
    His athleticism is NBA caliber...come on now...that is a huge stretch your making there....Beal is probably a better athlete, but better athlete does not equal better pro.....the NBA is littered with those kinds of examples.....

    You realize that most of Beal's and Rivers' stats are near identical?

    In fact, Rivers had a better 3pt% than Beal did last year (.365 to .339), in similar attempts, and there overall FG% was fairly close as well (Beal .445, Rivers .433) again, similar attempts. Also, Rivers measures out taller than Beal...We will find out the other measureables at the draft camp...

    and IMO Rivers had less talent to play around him than Beal did, and Rivers was the go-to guy on his team, and furthermore wanted to be that guy and was able to deliver as that guy, as a freshman. I want guys who are aggressive, can score and relish being that go-to guy. Not saying that Beal couldn't be that guy either, but IMO Rivers has a lot of positive things going for him that would lead one to believe he will be a very good pro.

    Scouts want to give Beal a pass for his subpar shooting year, ok fine, but then in the same regard then some of them want to knock Rivers for his shooting? Hypocrisy? I think so....

    Rivers can shoot, as good as Beal? Probably not, but he is a crafty scorer and that will translate to the NBA just fine, more than fine in the league of "no hand checks". Getting to the rim, finishing, getting fouled and WANTING to be and being able to deliver as a team's go-to guy are abilites that rate very high to me when I look at a player, and I just don't see any major red flags in regards to athleticism, IQ, size, injury or bad attitude (being cocky is not a bad thing...being an a-hole thug is entirely another matter and Rivers is nowehere near that).

    I would be happy with any of Beal\Rivers or Lamb...but I don't think Beal will be there for POR to pick...Lamb may or may not be either...Rivers likely will be and outside of those 3, I don't see any other player in that #6-10 range that intrigues me as much. Maybe Barnes?

    I think Rivers will rise during workouts, I see him likely going top 10. So if POR wants him or Lamb they will likely take them at #6-7....and better one of those guys than Sullinger (leg, injury concerns), Marshall, Lillard etc...

    Now at #11? I see POR going for Henson or if they have any balls (they currently don't) Perry Jones...
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2012
  15. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    69,949
    Likes Received:
    57,937
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    N.E.P.
    THIS IS AN AWESOME POST!
     
  16. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    69,949
    Likes Received:
    57,937
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    N.E.P.
    I would rather have Terrance Jones then these to bean poles!
     
  17. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    69,949
    Likes Received:
    57,937
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    N.E.P.
    proof?
     
  18. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,588
    Likes Received:
    56,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
  19. Blaze01

    Blaze01 JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2004
    Messages:
    2,106
    Likes Received:
    50
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I think Terrance Jones is being underrated....but I think Perry Jones is as well...all world talent, he is a good kid, just needs to develop that killer instinct...reminds me of Aldridge...not in type of player they are but in thier timid for lack of a better word...approach to how they play...preferrring to defer or blend in with the team than demand the ball...take control of a game...

    LA has\is continung to develop that...I see no reason why Perry Jones couldn't...and the fact that he is a good kid, a good team player, a hard worker...all positive signs to go with his fantastic athletic\bball skills bode well for him...

    He may never develop as that go to #1 or #2 guy but I think he will have alengthy NBA career as a valuable core player for a team...

    Jones issue is where does he play? PF? SF? Maybe it won't matter...I'd rather take the risk\reward of Jones or the known of Henson defensive abilities (and hope the offense catches up) over Jones.

    I think if POR could pull a Beal\Rivers - P.Jones\Henson draft it would be fantastic...
     
  20. Reep

    Reep Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5,545
    Likes Received:
    3,569
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    South Jordan, UT
    I really want to like Perry Jones, because he seems so solid and unselfish. But, there seem like too many barriers. He doesn't have that killer instinct and I'm not sure that is something you can develop. LMA doesn't really have it either. It will come out a couple times a year, but not very often. I can't think of too many other players who developed it after they came in the league. Maybe Pippen.

    Jones should follow the Lamar Odom path (minus the mental issues), and try to become a great point PF. Would love to see him work on his rebounding, as that is the biggest concern.
     

Share This Page