OFFICIAL Pre-pre-pre Draft Thread

Really? Can't he get an extra year and a higher % increase each year? Or did they change that?
Obviously we can't sign him and then turn around and trade him to somebody he didn't want to go to ("Psych!") But if I'm right and you're wrong and you CAN get more with a sign and trade, then we have some leverage.

 

I didn't think you could do a sign and trade for more years either, but this says differently.
They could be wrong.......

What is Sign and Trade Agreements?


A sign and trade agreement is a trade made in the NBA in which a potential free-agent is signed by their team and then immediately traded to another team. This structure exists because a free agent's team would be left without any compensation if their free agent signs with another team.


Sporting Charts explains Sign and Trade Agreements
A player may want a sign-and-trade because it allows the player to get a bigger salary for more years than if they just signed with another team. Again, this is the result of the NBA's CBA, which allows teams to re-sign their own free agents for longer and for more money than other teams. This rule is designed to allow teams to have an advantage when trying to re-sign their own free agents. The teams seeking to sign such a player will benefit by getting the player of their choice, while the player's original team gains something in return for their free agent. A team agreeing to a sign-and-trade may not renege on the agreement and keep the signed player; they must trade him.
http://www.sportingcharts.com/dictionary/nba/sign-and-trade-agreements.aspx

 

it was changed in the new cba. Only team that can offer 5 years and 7.5% raises is current team. Sign and trade and new signing is heels to 4/4.5%

 

Soooo rooting for LA to get out of top 5 in the lotto, and that pick goes to PHI leaving the lakers with nothing.

 

You're right!
Never mind then.

 

If NY keeps this pick I bet they go Winslow instead of Mudiay.

 

Winslow will be a good a player but I'm not sure he would fit well in NY.I think Porzingis or WTCS would be better fit picks.

 

This is the year to buy into the second round.

Mickey - Led the Nation in blocks after Upshaw was dismissed. Great timing, quick leaper.

Cheistmas - Ben Wallace clone from a physical standpoint - 6'8.25" w/o shoes | 7'5" wingspan | 9'3" reach. Age will likely keep him out of the first-round. The same thing happened to Taj Gibson.

 

Obekpa is another Ben Wallace clone, but I think he is staying another year in college (Could be had with our 2nd round Knicks pick next year though).

 

Christmas has a 9'3" reach at 6'8.25"

For his height, he has Rudy Gobert length.

Rakeem or Mickey have this Spurs-steal vibe to them.

The downside - Rakeem is 23.

 

Looking at numbers and the 'by minute production' surprised me a bit...

KAT was the most productive player in the country. By far. Only MN would choose Okafor over this kid.

Bobby Portis and Devin Booker are underrated prospects. Booker's game fits Dame and Stott's system perfectly - projected to go around OKC's pick.

Robert Upshaw was #5 -- even with his red flags I don't see how you can pass up on a talent like this.

 

I'm starting to come around to this view. Even if he's a Beasley-level stoner, Beasley would have been pretty good for a #23 pick.

 

My only qualms about taking Upshaw: it might mean that we ditch either Robin or Freeland. I would say show Freeland the door, but I didn't realize just HOW good his defense was.

 

Still a little reluctant on taking centers in the first round when there is talent still available. But I admit at 23 it is tempting.
Aside from the injury history we have had, my biggest worry is that centers usually need a few years to develop and to work hard on their game. Is he the type of player who is dedicated to work hard to improve? I don't know that answer and I doubt the NBA teams do either. They can only take an educated guess based on their conversations with him and his previous coaches. (The ones who booted him)

Maybe it is best that someone before us drafts him instead, ergo dropping a player down to us that would not have fallen.

 

Yeah Freeland needs to feel assured he will get minutes this year. No one want to sit his whole career. That gets old.
The thing is he was getting minutes the last two years before he got hurt, and each time when he came back he just couldn't get back in the rotation.

 

I like Freeland, but I LOVE RoLo. No way would I pick Freeland over Lopez. But also no way would I want Meyers starting, simply because of a good playoffs against ONE (fairly unique) opponent. But I'm willing to let Kaman go - he's the one who took Freeland's minutes. You can actually play Freeland and Meyers together.

 

I really think RoLo may be the most underrated player, well, certainly on this board. He deserves more than Freeland because he's proved more than Freeland. Also he's a true center size - Freeland is PF size but guards centers just because he can't quite keep up with PFs. But Meyers can do a lot more than Freeland, certainly on offense, and particularly in the P&R.

Hey, if, as you say, he's grown with the current treatment, then let him continue to grow. He's still pretty fundamentally unsound and weak on the boards, and a very sub par shot blocker for his height. Besides, it's not like he's in competition with RoLo - he's a power forward, not a center.