Official Rockets Draft Thread

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  1. Eduardo

    Eduardo JBB JustBBall Member

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    You know, I actually woundn't mind trading for Gerald Green. He's a T-mac type player and he came from HOUSTON. He'd love to be in houston and would probably play his heart out although I doubt the Celts would trade him since he is a star in the making [​IMG]
    In the draft, I do agree with getting Rodney Carney too..he'd be a great SG alongside T-mac although I think he played SF in college? I also saw him in the college dunk contest and i must saaay, he can elevate [​IMG] So in the draft, id have Carney, Roby or Brewer(except the abnormal shot is kinda turning me off)
     
  2. moeinhouston

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    I don't think a big man is what the Rockets should be looking for. They have been undersized and overplayed at the 2guard for 2 years around TMac. They have to fill that first. Any big man we get is comming off the bench, I would think, Rockets need a starter out of the 1st round.

    Roby over Carney for one reason.

    Roby's ball handling skills are more advanced at this point.
    This lets him get his own offense and penetrate.
    I think Roby is a little more skilled to go with his versitility.
     
  3. TmacGarnett

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    Carney is more experienced in big games than Roby is. Roby will take some time to get adjusted to JVG's system. Carney or JJ come from very good programs. They would make instant impacts.
     
  4. AznxBaller

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    Durvasa, very nice statistics as usual. But how come those that finish 6th-11th have zero percent possibilities for draft picks 4 and 5? I'm probably just reading the chart wrong. But what can I say, nice job done. I didn't think we would have that great of a chance at first of landing a higher pick through the ping pong balls but hey, from what your numbers suggest and the history, its actually very possible. Which means, we can actually get the guy mentioned above- Brandon Roy, Rodney Carney, or Ronnie Brewer if our pick stays the same.
     
  5. durvasa

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Durvasa, very nice statistics as usual. But how come those that finish 6th-11th have zero percent possibilities for draft picks 4 and 5? I'm probably just reading the chart wrong. But what can I say, nice job done.</div>

    No, you read it correctly. While 14 teams enter the lottery, it's only for the first 3 picks. After the first 3 picks are given out, the rest of the picks are given to the remaining teams by record. That's what the rules say (unless I read it wrong).

    So, suppose we are the 6th team, record-wise. We have a chance of getting the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd pick. If not, then there'll be at least two teams remaining with a worse record than us, so they'd get the 4th and 5th picks. In the worst case, the top 3 picks are awarded to teams with better record than us and we'd actually be bumped down all the way to the 9th pick as a result. My simulation showed there's about a 1/1000 chance of that happening.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I didn't think we would have that great of a chance at first of landing a higher pick through the ping pong balls but hey, from what your numbers suggest and the history, its actually very possible. Which means, we can actually get the guy mentioned above- Brandon Roy, Rodney Carney, or Ronnie Brewer if our pick stays the same.</div>

    I have a feeling we'd have a good shot at one of those guys even if we end up with the 6-8 picks, which at this point appears most likely.
     
  6. tinyballer

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    In the second round if we get a lower pick or if this players stock rises i would like to see us Yotam Halperin. He is a 6'5" combine guard that shot 55% from the 3pt arch. He is also a good slasher and is a crafty ball handler and slasher using jukes and shakes to get his defender off. Great creater off of the Pick and Role. He is a good team defender is that he can anticipate passess very well but he may have problems staying infront of his man because of limited lateral quickness. One other weakness is that isn't very explosive. Other than that he has great intangibles and is very coachable and a player that hustles hard. So What do you all think about drafting him?
     
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    I think the rockets should go after a guy like Shelden Williams, he would compliment Yao very well, Yao would be the primary scorer and Shelden would be there to clean up the boards, he's a big body and a good shot blocker, I think he would translate well into the NBA. I wouldnt mind seeing this lineup next year:

    PG- Rafer Alston
    SG- Luther Head
    SF- Tracy McGrady
    PF- Shelden Williams
    C- Yao Ming
     
  8. tinyballer

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    If they wanted a power forward who can do something now rather than later they should pick up Andrea Bargnani. He fits what Van Gundy wants a Power Forward with amazing range with amazing accuarcy and ability to blow past any defender they put on him at pf position. He also plays with heart and great atheletisisum with finesse post game. He is also a pretty consistent rebounder besides the fact he is skinny. I say draft him if we are going to draft a PF
     
  9. Trip

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting tinyballer:</div><div class="quote_post">If they wanted a power forward who can do something now rather than later they should pick up Andrea Bargnani. He fits what Van Gundy wants a Power Forward with amazing range with amazing accuarcy and ability to blow past any defender they put on him at pf position. He also plays with heart and great atheletisisum with finesse post game. He is also a pretty consistent rebounder besides the fact he is skinny. I say draft him if we are going to draft a PF</div>
    What if he's off the table? The Rockets are most likely going to draft eighth, and Bargnani could very well be gone by then. In fact, I'd take Shelden Williams even if Bargnani is still available. Have you even seen him play or have you just read NBADraft.net's profiles?
     
  10. tinyballer

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    No i've seen him play i am not that big of an idiot. I've seen him play on euro leagueTV it plays soccer and basketball and hes been on it numerous times. He is just so good with that three point jumper and beating his man off the dribble. He even has some post moves. I think he would be a perfect guy in our system that can fill Juwan role even better maybe put up 15/8 per game. Only thing i am scared of about this kid is if he will be roughed up in the nba. But i mean hey we've seen guyz gain 30 pounds in one summer so he might be able to do that too but it might damage his quickness. Plus he will be avaliable at 8 because people are saying he is another workout wonder from europe when he is actually playing with the senior squad and getting good minutes unlike skita or lampe and cabarkapa and is playing on a better team then nowitzki was. I'd take shelden over him any day because sheldon is a power guy and has pretty good jumping ability but he doesn't have the deadly jump shot or the quicknes sthat bargini has and thats why i want him plus i believe he can contribute more because i believe that the euro level he is playing at is higher than the ncaa.
     
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    Yi Jaunlien is declaring for this years draft so we might be able to draft him.
     
  12. pullapo

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    you guys have gotten lucky too much...better not happen again! I am a celtics fan an we havent been lucky for twenty years. Remember Duncan?
    Anyway I think you are in a great position. You have two players that may be the best at their position in the league and you get to add a lottery pick. A PG would be huge for you but I think Yi Jianlian would be a nice pick at 9. Especially with Yao their. I want the Celts to grab him at 7 but i have a feeling this pick is getting packaged with some players to get paul another sidekick.
    What you guys think?
     
  13. TmacGarnett

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    Id be willing to let go of the #9 pick to you guys for Gerald Green *enthusiastic look*
     
  14. Trip

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    Yi would be great at the four. However, at just 18, can he make an impact on the team right away? He's an intriguing prospect, and having Yao take him under his wing would be good for Yi's development, but for a team that needs to contend immediately, Yi might not be as surefire as Shelden Williams. If Yi is still on the board, though, we should definitely consider him.
     
  15. AznxBaller

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Draft Buzz

    Our friends at HoopChina.com have informed us that there is breaking news out of China. Forward Yi Jianlian, considered the top prospect out of Asia since Yao Ming has been given consent by his team, the Guangdong Tigers, and the Chinese Basketball Association to explore this year's NBA draft.

    This is significant news because the CBA made a rule in 2004 that Chinese players could not enter the draft until they turned 22. Yi is officially listed as 1987 born.

    But Yi's actual age is in question, (some feel he's actually 1984 born) and he could already be turning 22 this year.

    Regardless of his actual birth year, the Chinese National team and all official records state that he is 1987 born, and that is unlikely to change. NBA International scouts feel that Yi is an NBA level player regardless if he is 1984 or 1987 born.

    The one condition from the CBA is that Yi see action in his first season (roughly 10 minutes per game) to make it worthwhile. The CBA doesn't see any point in having a player such as Yi or Wang Zhizhi come to the US to play, and spend all of their time on a team's bench. But the condition is not an ultimatum, instead more of a pact between the CBA and Yi's agent.</div>
    Its official.

    I'm psyched. From what I've heard, at age 18 (?) he's already very refined (with post up moves, jump shot, athleticism), the only problem is his strength and weight. Can he contribute right away? Who knows, but the Rockets definitely need to consider drafting this guy.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">Yi would be great at the four. However, at just 18, can he make an impact on the team right away? He's an intriguing prospect, and having Yao take him under his wing would be good for Yi's development, but for a team that needs to contend immediately, Yi might not be as surefire as Shelden Williams. If Yi is still on the board, though, we should definitely consider him.</div>

    Man, how long has that dude been 18 years old? He was 16/17 when he was playing at the Olympics? I don't buy it.
     
  17. tinyballer

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    He was 17 in 2004 in the olympics as of right now he is 18 years old because he has yet to turn 19 this year. Plus his parents got married in 1985 and in china you would disgrace yourself if you have a child before marriage so very unlikely plus the fact that he would be born in 1984. DRAFT him if he is declaring man i love him even more than bargini. Yi is a very explosive athelete that has an aggressive heart and playing style to grab rebounds. He would be a cross between KG/JO in games. Draft him if hes avaliable he would be of such great help to the team. Plus he also fits the category of long ranged pf because he can shoot all the way out to olympic three point line. He just not as good a ball handler as Andrea Bargini. One other reason they are wanting yi to and someother chinese prospects to go now is because its two years until the big show and they don't want to screw it up. Obviously they want him here so he can see playing time and develop hoping he can go to the level of yao. They are doing thi in preparation of the 2008 olympics in two years in which they hope to win. Plus they would probably like for him to play in houston in hopes of developing chemistry with yao ming before the olympics and they could be like a Dave robinson Tim Duncan combo if they are formed. Plus all the talk about him not being atheletic just atheletic in chinese standards is not true even Del Harris comapred him to Stromile Swift in running and jumping ability
     
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    And the good thing is he could drop to our pick.
     
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    Yi is projected to go 22nd overall by nbadraft.net

    I think someone will take a chance at him.
     
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    Thats such a crappy projection its not even funny when team china comfirms his age or something his stock will rise and when workouts come his stock will rise he will surprise you all how high his stock will rise.
     

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