<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jun 11 2008, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ Jun 11 2008, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why? You already have your bigs. No need to swing and miss</div> You know a team with too many bigs? I like the thinking, actually. Portland is going to be a great team for years to come whether this pick pans out or not. Why not go for the fences? </div> I agree. Do we have an actual need for a young player? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 11 2008, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Deandre Jordan? I don't get it. Do you have a trade in the works, behind the scenes?</div> That's another part of the thinking. I don't have a trade lined up, but I figure that Jordan has the most trade value of anybody on the board. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ Jun 11 2008, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would have taken someone like Budinger.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Jun 11 2008, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah I agree Portland doesnt need Jordan, I think they are going to consolidate and if they don't trade their pick, will take a PG (none available in this case) so I see them taking Alexander or Greene.</div> If we don't get a star in a trade, I'd rather keep our depth. I see this as our core for the next 10 years: Koponen/Rodriguez Roy/Fernandez Webster/Outlaw Aldridge/Frye Oden/Jordan I don't see any PGs left with more potential than Koponen or Rodriguez. If we could get Nate to play Rodriguez and let him play his game, I think he could be pretty good, and Koponen sounds like a Rodriguez who plays a style that has a better chance of getting Nate to play him. I see Alexander as Outlaw from two years ago. Both are amazing athletes and can jump very high. Both are learning the game. Unless the plan is to trade Outlaw, I don't see a need to take Alexander, or Greene, I don't see what they give us that Outlaw doesn't. I don't see Budinger as an upgrade over Webster either. Budinger is a shooter, so is Webster. Webster is becoming a solid defender, is Budinger? What else can Budinger do for us? I just don't see any players available who would give us anything we don't already have, other than a backup C to grow with the team for the next 10 years, we don't have one of those, and that's why I picked Jordan.
Rodriguez needs to learn to shoot and play defense before we can rely on him. Koponen is far too raw for us to think he is going to take over the reins anytime soon too. I think both will be backup PG's at best.
I still don't get it. I mean he's getting picked based on upside right? Wat kinda motivation will he have, if he knows he's being looked at as a back-up for the next 4+ years.
But if you look at it another way, his upside gives him a ton of trade value. You could get so much for him. He draws comparisons to Dwight Howard by some . I'm not saying he will be Dwight Howard, they just are very similar in game play.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Jun 12 2008, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I still don't get it. I mean he's getting picked based on upside right? Wat kinda motivation will he have, if he knows he's being looked at as a back-up for the next 4+ years.</div> $$$$$
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Jun 11 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>that hasn't been enough motivation for alot of "upside picks".</div> How about 10 championships in a row then?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gambitnut @ Jun 12 2008, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Jun 11 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>that hasn't been enough motivation for alot of "upside picks".</div> How about 10 championships in a row then? </div> Jermaine O'neal bitched about playing behind Grant, Wallace and Sabonis, I don't see why this would be any different.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Jun 11 2008, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gambitnut @ Jun 12 2008, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Jun 11 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>that hasn't been enough motivation for alot of "upside picks".</div> How about 10 championships in a row then? </div> Jermaine O'neal bitched about playing behind Grant, Wallace and Sabonis, I don't see why this would be any different. </div> Outlaw has never complained about not starting that I know of.
Could Portland just package that pick with some young talent to get either Hinrich or Ford? That would help them more right now
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gambitnut @ Jun 12 2008, 12:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Jun 11 2008, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gambitnut @ Jun 12 2008, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Jun 11 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>that hasn't been enough motivation for alot of "upside picks".</div> How about 10 championships in a row then? </div> Jermaine O'neal bitched about playing behind Grant, Wallace and Sabonis, I don't see why this would be any different. </div> Outlaw has never complained about not starting that I know of. </div> I was talking about Jordan being behind Przybilla, Oden, Aldridge and Frye <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NattaNerNuttaMan @ Jun 12 2008, 01:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Could Portland just package that pick with some young talent to get either Hinrich or Ford? That would help them more right now</div> Hinrich? maybe depending on the cost, Ford hell no.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gambitnut @ Jun 12 2008, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 11 2008, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Deandre Jordan? I don't get it. Do you have a trade in the works, behind the scenes?</div> That's another part of the thinking. I don't have a trade lined up, but I figure that Jordan has the most trade value of anybody on the board. I see this as our core for the next 10 years: Koponen/Rodriguez Roy/Fernandez Webster/Outlaw Aldridge/Frye Oden/Jordan </div> Ah, I see. You're looking to get rid of Przybilla and that godawful contract. Perfectly understandable.
It was a tough choice between Donte Greene and Kosta Koufos at 14. The last week I was riding Koufos' nuts but then today for some reason my gut told me Greene is the better pick. I like that Greene can come in right away and play for Nellie but he also fits in well for the future alongside Monta Ellis, Brandan Wright, Biedrins, etc. Last year the Warriors struggled to find anyone successful at the "SF playing PF almost full time" position. The year before it was Barnes and Pietrus but they were both terrible last year. I think Greene can learn to do that and Nellie would cream himself with a 6'10 guy who moves, handles, and shoots like Greene does as a 20 y/o rookie. This is a really good pick at 14 too, I'm not sure why but Greene has been slept on the last few months. Dude averaged 18/7/1.3 spg/1.6 bpg as a rookie in the big east. His FG% sucked but he was one of the main options there at Syracuse and being a freshman he probably wasn't entirely comfortable the whole time while his team was relying on him. Thats an easy fix in the NBA as well where he'll be a role player his first couple of years. His defense needs work too (like all players coming out of Syracuse) but hopefully S-Jx will take him under his wing and show him how to play solid D. Kosta was tempting because there is a possibility that Biedrins is gone this offseason and then we'd have no real C. I don't think he would get much run with Nellie though and Mullin is notorious for his love for left handed players; Kosta Koufos has a pretty bad left hand and thats not really an easy problem to correct (I'm sure it'll get better but it will take a few offseasons). I love his size and raw skills, jumpshot, and I love how he fits with Wright in the future but I just can't get by the fact that Nellie wouldn't play him because a) hes a rookie, b) hes not a great rebounder/defender/shotblocker (and you have to be pretty damn good because the C is basically the only guy warding others away from the rim in small ball), c) while hes a good athlete for his size he doesn't run the floor all that well.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jun 12 2008, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Run, don't you personally think Love is a bit of a reach for Minny at 3?</div> You're talking about my mock? I'll respond in this thread just for the sake of keeping each thread on topic.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ Jun 12 2008, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It was a tough choice between Donte Greene and Kosta Koufos at 14. The last week I was riding Koufos' nuts but then today for some reason my gut told me Greene is the better pick. I like that Greene can come in right away and play for Nellie but he also fits in well for the future alongside Monta Ellis, Brandan Wright, Biedrins, etc. Last year the Warriors struggled to find anyone successful at the "SF playing PF almost full time" position. The year before it was Barnes and Pietrus but they were both terrible last year. I think Greene can learn to do that and Nellie would cream himself with a 6'10 guy who moves, handles, and shoots like Greene does as a 20 y/o rookie. This is a really good pick at 14 too, I'm not sure why but Greene has been slept on the last few months. Dude averaged 18/7/1.3 spg/1.6 bpg as a rookie in the big east. His FG% sucked but he was one of the main options there at Syracuse and being a freshman he probably wasn't entirely comfortable the whole time while his team was relying on him. Thats an easy fix in the NBA as well where he'll be a role player his first couple of years. His defense needs work too (like all players coming out of Syracuse) but hopefully S-Jx will take him under his wing and show him how to play solid D. Kosta was tempting because there is a possibility that Biedrins is gone this offseason and then we'd have no real C. I don't think he would get much run with Nellie though and Mullin is notorious for his love for left handed players; Kosta Koufos has a pretty bad left hand and thats not really an easy problem to correct (I'm sure it'll get better but it will take a few offseasons). I love his size and raw skills, jumpshot, and I love how he fits with Wright in the future but I just can't get by the fact that Nellie wouldn't play him because a) hes a rookie, b) hes not a great rebounder/defender/shotblocker (and you have to be pretty damn good because the C is basically the only guy warding others away from the rim in small ball), c) while hes a good athlete for his size he doesn't run the floor all that well.</div> Great choice of Greene for the Warriors. He'd fit that role perfectly, as you said. Actually, I hope Donte gets drafted by the Warriors in real life. That'd be the perfect situation for him.
They went to the same school, drafted in the same spot, same height, and will probably have similar careers LOL. http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/cedricsimmons.html http://nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/jjhickson.html
