Official Trade Ideas Thread (Lakers)

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  1. Billa_Bong

    Billa_Bong JBB JustBBall Member

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    Brandon asked about a Kidd trade, I think it could work WITH keeping Odom would be this:

    Laker's Recieve / Net's Trade:
    Jason Kidd

    Laker's Trade / Net's Recieve:
    Vlade Divac
    Devean George
    Chucky Atkins
    Kareem Rush

    Laker Positives:
    Laker would get Kidd, a top point guard in the league who is number one when healthy. This will bring better ball movement to the lakers, less turnovers, and will really fill in the void on defense in the point guard spot, with him this brings in a starter who can put up 18ppg/10a/2s and still share time with Brown.

    Nets Positives:

    They get really good role players and one player that can come in and possibly develope into a star shooter in Kareem. They get a good working point guard in Atkins, a very atheltic George to help back of Jefferson, Divac who can help get the ball around the court for the Nets. This is good for them because Vlade can also bring leadership and court smarts to the young players on the team.

    Salaries:
    I have done the salaries and they matched up perfectly at 14.7 million.

    Laker Line Up:

    PG: Jason Kidd, Tierre Brown
    SG: Kobe Bryant, Sasha Vujacic(Could move him up, he can develope his shooting game and such to help the Lakers while he sits figuring Kidd is on when Kobe takes a breather)
    SF: Caron Butler, Jumaine Jones, Luke Walton
    PF: Lamar Odom, Brian Cook, Slava
    C: Chris Mihm, Brian Grant(IR)

    Of course this leaves a void a the middle with no back up center while Grant is out, but figure we put in two power fowards like Odom/Cook and just run the ball and really try to just wear out the other team. I mean rebounding isn't hard if everyone crashes the boards and doesn't sit and look. ALSO by the way it looks with the Mock Draft, the Lakers could pick up another 7 footer.
     
  2. jbbReal Deal

    jbbReal Deal Active Member

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    Well, I'm not very positive about the Kidd trade though. He'd put us over the cap for quite some time, and who knows how healthy he is.

    But, we need to do something.
     
  3. TheNextJordan8

    TheNextJordan8 JBB JustBBall Member

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    No man Keep Kidd away from L.A thats all i have to say.

    Taking everything into consideration i would much rather have Hinrich then Kidd looking at salaries age and health i would much rather have him he would fit into our team much better.
     
  4. jbbReal Deal

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheNextJordan8:</div><div class="quote_post">No man Keep Kidd away from L.A thats all i have to say.

    Taking everything into consideration i would much rather have Hinrich then Kidd looking at salaries age and health i would much rather have him he would fit into our team much better.</div>
    If we get Hinrich, I'll be the first to predict a championship within three years of the trade.
     
  5. yanix

    yanix JBB JustBBall Member

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    hmm... a point guard may be a good idea. we'd slide chucky back to being a back-up pg which i think he's more effective. i'd like to get rid of george and rush but not vlade. maybe we could get cassell? he's great pg and a great shooter putting up consistent shooting games. a shooting pg may be more effective since we have kobe dishing out to the open man all the time. so i'd rather have cassell.
     
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    urbannomad23 JBB JustBBall Member

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    how bout, VC, Jalen Rose, Loren Woods, Jerome Moiso, for

    Lamar Odom, Kareem, Mihm, and tierre or vujacic. either. one and TO will throw in a draft pick if they have to.
     
  7. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    L.A. Will not trade Mihm or Vujacic. Lamar Odom is going to be hard to get. I doubt L.A. would do that, VC and Bryant could not exist together on the same team, let alone throw Jalen in the mix with Caron Butler, way too much team turmoil.
     
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    If Carter ever wore purple and gold, I'd pray for Kobe.
     
  9. Billa_Bong

    Billa_Bong JBB JustBBall Member

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    Well, I was always thinking of a Bulls/Lakers Trade because they have good talent.

    Bull's Trade / Laker's Recieve:
    Eddie Curry
    Kirk Hinrich

    Bull's Recieve / Laker's Trade:
    Vlade Divac
    Kareem Rush


    Laker Benefits:
    The Laker's get a good energic young point guard who can really get the ball to the open player and really just play the point on the offensive end and defensive end. Eddie Curry will really fill in the rebounding presence the Laker's need and has great offense, with Curry, we get another option for Lamar to move down to the three at one point in the game and we can really play with our roster better with more than one real inside big man. Great Trade for the Lakers!


    Bull's Benefits:
    The Bull's get Veteran Leadership to help there young players on and off the court, Divac and his huge basketball I.Q. can help that team grow which they need desperatley. They also get a potential great shooter and player in Rush which can really help them. This trade is good for them because they don't get a whole lot of talent back for there players, but smarts and also a potential great player.


    Salaries:
    Salaries match, don't have to worry bout that I do my research [​IMG].


    Laker's Roster:
    PG - Kirk Hinrich, Chucky Atkins, Tierre Brown
    SG - Kobe Bryant, Sasha Vujacic
    SF - Caron Butler, Luke Walton, Devean George, Jumaine Jones(Probably _ another trade involving a sf for a sg would be ideal)
    PF - Lamar Odom, Brian Cook, Slava
    C - Chris Mihm, Eddie Curry(Can move to the PF if needed), Brian Grant

    Seems pritty strong line up to me, good trade a sf for a sg
     
  10. bdubb

    bdubb JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Billa_Bong:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, I was always thinking of a Bulls/Lakers Trade because they have good talent.

    Bull's Trade / Laker's Recieve:
    Eddie Curry
    Kirk Hinrich

    Bull's Recieve / Laker's Trade:
    Vlade Divac
    Kareem Rush


    Laker Benefits:
    The Laker's get a good energic young point guard who can really get the ball to the open player and really just play the point on the offensive end and defensive end. Eddie Curry will really fill in the rebounding presence the Laker's need and has great offense, with Curry, we get another option for Lamar to move down to the three at one point in the game and we can really play with our roster better with more than one real inside big man. Great Trade for the Lakers!


    Bull's Benefits:
    The Bull's get Veteran Leadership to help there young players on and off the court, Divac and his huge basketball I.Q. can help that team grow which they need desperatley. They also get a potential great shooter and player in Rush which can really help them. This trade is good for them because they don't get a whole lot of talent back for there players, but smarts and also a potential great player.


    Salaries:
    Salaries match, don't have to worry bout that I do my research [​IMG].


    Laker's Roster:
    PG - Kirk Hinrich, Chucky Atkins, Tierre Brown
    SG - Kobe Bryant, Sasha Vujacic
    SF - Caron Butler, Luke Walton, Devean George, Jumaine Jones(Probably _ another trade involving a sf for a sg would be ideal)
    PF - Lamar Odom, Brian Cook, Slava
    C - Chris Mihm, Eddie Curry(Can move to the PF if needed), Brian Grant

    Seems pritty strong line up to me, good trade a sf for a sg</div>

    Thats sounds great for the Lakers, but I don't think the Bulls are willing to part with Hinrich.
     
  11. TheNextJordan8

    TheNextJordan8 JBB JustBBall Member

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    I was thinking if the Lakers managment some how was able to trade kobe (not that i want to, just an idea lol) we would be able to get tremendous amount of talent back most probably a nice SG and a decent center i dont know just wanted to point out that a team with lamar and caron and the pieces we get for kobe would probably be a very good team and we would most probably have the most depth of all teams.

    Just a tought i mean would anybody have tought 7 years ago that we would trade shaq, just a tought. Because i know Kobe will have his time where he will leave L.A and everyone will be sayin Nba is a buisness, not that i want hi mto get traded buts its allways in back of my mind that its a buisness they can backstab Kobe you never know.
     
  12. Billa_Bong

    Billa_Bong JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheNextJordan8:</div><div class="quote_post">I was thinking if the Lakers managment some how was able to trade kobe (not that i want to, just an idea lol) we would be able to get tremendous amount of talent back most probably a nice SG and a decent center i dont know just wanted to point out that a team with lamar and caron and the pieces we get for kobe would probably be a very good team and we would most probably have the most depth of all teams.

    Just a tought i mean would anybody have tought 7 years ago that we would trade shaq, just a tought. Because i know Kobe will have his time where he will leave L.A and everyone will be sayin Nba is a buisness, not that i want hi mto get traded buts its allways in back of my mind that its a buisness they can backstab Kobe you never know.</div>

    I know, I have thought about it too. they could probably get like a lot of good players, maybe even like Lebron. The point is Kobe is such a great player I don't ever think he will be on the market because of what he can do and he jus has all the peices to the puzzle on his game.
     
  13. TheNextJordan8

    TheNextJordan8 JBB JustBBall Member

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    I Hope So.
     
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    Billa_Bong JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting bdubb:</div><div class="quote_post">Thats sounds great for the Lakers, but I don't think the Bulls are willing to part with Hinrich.</div>

    You never know, I mean Hinrich started at the sg vs the Lakers. they need a sg and rush can probably do really good cuz he will get his minutes, get his playing time and probably a contract extension with them. also remember they have gordan coming off the bench and he is going to be a good bull(thx for pointing that out nxtjordan) star soon. so really i think they could and would be filling to part with him.
     
  15. TheNextJordan8

    TheNextJordan8 JBB JustBBall Member

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    u mean a bull starter**

    Anyways



    Lakers Trade / Warriors Receive

    Chucky Atkins
    Deaven George
    Luke Walton



    Warriors Trade / Lakers Receive

    Mike Dunleavy
    Derek Fisher




    This trade seems like a good one because it gets rid of our jam i nthe SF spot and also gives us a much more better Pg or at least i would think. It would also mean mor eminutes for Jumaine Jones which has played very good so far I would take this trade seems pretty fair for me. What do you guys think?
     
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    i think Lakers should trade jumaine jones, kareem rush, and luke walton for emeka okafur
     
  17. jbbReal Deal

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Zane:</div><div class="quote_post">i think Lakers should trade jumaine jones, kareem rush, and luke walton for emeka okafur</div>
    I'd do it in a heartbeat, but the Cats would never trade Emeka.
     
  18. Billa_Bong

    Billa_Bong JBB JustBBall Member

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    In result of Armstrong getting traded to Dallas I think if Hornets are trading we, The Laker's coul make a trade run:

    Laker's Recieve / Hornet's Trade:

    Baron Davis
    P.J. Brown

    Hornet's Recieve / Laker's Trade:

    Lamar Odom
    Devean George
    Chucky Atkins

    Laker Positive's:
    Laker's get one of the best point guards in the league who can dish out 8 assists per night and put up 20 points while pulling off a couple steals and get P.J. Brown who will fit perfectly into the Laker's needed point guard position. Laker's benefit because they will get a guy who can pull down 10 boards a night and fill the inside with the defensive and toughness they need while bringing in a for sure 2nd option and guy who can handle just about every point guard in the league. They don't loose the rebounding that is so vital in Odom and they also gain a top guard in the league.

    Hornet Positive's:
    With the recent trade of Armstrong, The Hornet's are looking for youth and a person who can help lead a team, Lamar Odom is there man. Look what he did in Miami with the Heat, he lead them to the play offs and almost beat Indiani in a 7 game series with no center and really limited rollplayers and a under developed Wade, Imagine what he can do with Magloire next year....it sounds very good, with Atkins they get a good experienced offensive guard who is not the best defensive player but can hit the three when they need it while they also get Devean George who can really take it to the whole and use his athelitism to help them win game. In all I think for a rebuilding team starting from ground zero this is a great trade for the Lakers.

    Laker Roster:
    Pg- Baron Davis/Tierre Brown/Sasha Vujacic
    Sg- Kobe Bryant/Kareem Rush
    Sf- Caron Butler/Jumaine Jones/Luke Walton
    Pf- P.J. Brown/Brian Cook/Slava Medveladanko
    C- Chris Mihm/ Vlade Divac/Briant Grant

    Salaries:
    Davis and Brown add up to 19.3 and the combination of George, Odom, Atkins matches it within trade restrictions.
     
  19. TheNextJordan8

    TheNextJordan8 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Rafer??

    Just tihnking again but this time with some good news to go along with it. An incident happened in The Boston and Toronto game and Rafer got benched he is mad now because of the way the coach handled the situation and has said that maybe its betetr for hi mto go to a different team or even leave the league, Nice opportunity for the Lakers dont you think?

    ``It's tough right now for me,'' he said. ``I'm going to talk to Sam and (general manager Rob Babcock). I think it's time. I'm tired of getting into it with my teammates and my coaches. I don't know if I'm a good fit for this team and I don't know if I'm a good fit for this league.



    Link http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylc=X3oD...ov=ap&type=lgns

    <font size="1"><font color="Red">Merged
    -NMG</font></font>
     
  20. jbbReal Deal

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    Okay...my turn to address some of these trade ideas.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Billa_Bong:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Lakers Trade:
    Kareem Rush
    Devean George

    Lakers Recieve:
    Derek Fisher</div>
    This trade would be nice, really...but we'd have to get rid of Atkins, Tierre or Vujacic. If we had a second trade in mind, one of our PG's for a PF or backup SG, I'd be happy with this.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting NickVanExel:</div><div class="quote_post">Lakers Trade:
    Kareem Rush
    Chucky Atkins

    Lakers Recieve:
    Marcus Banks
    Michael Stewart
    </div>
    With Delonte West's injury, Banks will more than likely stay in Boston. Plus, I prefer Atkins over Banks anyways, and I'd much rather have Rush than Yogi.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Billa_Bong:</div><div class="quote_post">Lakers Trade:
    Lamar Odom, Salary: 10.5 Million
    Devean George, Salary: 4.5 Million
    Kareem Rush, Salary: 1 Million

    Toronto Trades:
    Rafer Alston, Salary: 3.5 Million
    Vince Carter, Salary: 12.5 Million</div>
    Could be a possibility now that Rafer Alston doesn't wanna play in the NBA anymore...but...do we want a guy like that on our team? Maybe he'll be happier in LA. As for Carter...not sure. We'd be losing a rebounder in Odom, and Carter's season has been less than good this year.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">L.A. Lakers trade:
    SF Jumaine Jones
    SF Devean George

    Sixers trade:
    C Samuel Dalembert
    SF Kedrick Brown
    PG Kevin Ollie </div>
    Geez. I don't know...can I part with George? [​IMG] Actually, the Sixers would be crazy to do this, but I'd do the trade. Put Korver in there, and I'd jump on it much quicker. [​IMG]

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting showtimerevival:</div><div class="quote_post">Indiana trades:
    David Harrison

    L.A. Lakers trades:
    Kareem Rush</div>
    Good trade. I'd do it, and Indiana may bite for this one.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Billa_Bong:</div><div class="quote_post">Lakers Receive:
    Nene

    Denver Recieves:
    Jumaine Jones
    Sasha Vujacic</div>
    Hmm...don't know about trading Vujacic. I think the Nuggets are looking for an SG (maybe Rush). But then again, I read somewhere that they need a PG.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Billa_Bong:</div><div class="quote_post">Lakers Trade:
    Jason Kidd

    Nets Recieve:
    Vlade Divac
    Devean George
    Chucky Atkins
    Kareem Rush
    </div>
    Well, I'd hate to lose Divac and only have Mihm as our center, with Grant on the shelf. Maybe the Nets can consider something for Kidd AND Mourning?

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting urbannomad23:</div><div class="quote_post">how bout, VC, Jalen Rose, Loren Woods, Jerome Moiso, for

    Lamar Odom, Kareem, Mihm, and tierre or vujacic. either. one and TO will throw in a draft pick if they have to.</div>
    No way. Odom, Mihm and Tierre (together) are more valuable than the entire Raptors roster to me (as far as who we can't get rid of). I don't think Carter and Rose will take a backseat for Kobe, anyways...as far as scoring goes.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Billa_Bong:</div><div class="quote_post">Lakers Trade:
    Eddie Curry
    Kirk Hinrich

    Bulls Receive:
    Vlade Divac
    Kareem Rush
    </div>
    I would do this trade faster than any trade mentioned...but there's no chance that the Bulls would do this. If they did, they wouldn't ever win another game.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheNextJordan8:</div><div class="quote_post">Lakers Trade / Warriors Receive
    Chucky Atkins
    Deaven George
    Luke Walton

    Warriors Trade / Lakers Receive
    Mike Dunleavy
    Derek Fisher
    </div>
    Ah...not so sure. Dunleavy is terrible on defense, and I'd hate to part with Luke Walton, who's possibly the best passer (other than Kobe) on this team. He's our spark off the bench (if Rudy would let him play) and he's the Laker fan favorite.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Zane:</div><div class="quote_post">i think Lakers should trade jumaine jones, kareem rush, and luke walton for emeka okafur</div>
    I may have commented on this already...but I'd do this, just because Emeka is a GREAT defender at the college level, and is only going to get better with time. He would bring a great attitude and would work well with Kobe.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Billa_Bong:</div><div class="quote_post">Lakers Recieve / Hornets Trade:
    Baron Davis
    P.J. Brown

    Hornets Recieve / Lakers Trade:
    Lamar Odom
    Devean George
    Chucky Atkins
    </div>
    Baron may be hurt later on down the road. I'm not sure if I'd take that risk. Plus, he couldn't get it done when he was healthy in New Orleans (this season)...and we'd be losing our best rebounder for PJ Brown, who's not as good as Odom. I'd like to shop George when he's healthy anyways, and see if we can get someone out of him, or a draft pick. Atkins and Odom wouldn't be worth PJ Brown and Baron, IMO. And...how well would Baron work with Kobe? Both have a scorer's mentality...I just don't know if that's the risk we need to take just yet.
     

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