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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Hillary Clinton signed non-disclosure agreement to protect classified info while secretary of state
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    Nov. 3, 2015: Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks during a town hall meeting at Grinnell College Tuesday in Grinnell, Iowa. (AP)

    On January 22nd, 2009, Hillary Clinton signed a Non-Disclosure agreement, or NDA, where she agreed to protect highly classified information, and a failure to do so could result in criminal prosecution.

    "I have been advised that any breach of this Agreement may result in my termination of my access to SCI (Sensitive Compartmented Information) and removal from a position of special confidence," the NDA reads.

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    "I have been advised that any authorized disclosure of SCI by me may constitute violations of United States criminal laws, including provisions of Sections 793, 794, 798 and 952, Title 18 United States Code..." These are provisions of the Espionage Act, and as Fox recently reported, 18 USC 793 subsection (f) is of special interest to the FBI investigation as it includes "gross negligence" in the handling of national defense information.

    The NDA was first obtained through a federal lawsuit under the Freedom of Information Act by the Competitive Enterprise Institute, or CEI, which says on its website that it is a "...non-profit public policy organization dedicated to advancing the principles of limited government, free enterprise, and individual liberty."

    The NDA signed by Mrs. Clinton as Secretary of State is significant because the State Department has never publicly acknowledged that she signed documents, confirming she was "advised that the unauthorized disclosure, unauthorized retention, or negligent handling" of top secret material was a punishable offense.

    The use of a private server for government business, on its face, is a clear violation of the NDA agreement.

    The NDA goes on to say -- "I have been advised that the unauthorized disclosure, unauthorized retention, or negligent handling of SCI by me could cause irreparable injury to the United States or be used to advantage by foreign nationals."

    This summer the intelligence community's inspector general or ICIG reviewed a random sample from Clinton's server used for government business. The rules are straight forward: the agencies that obtain the intelligence have final say on classification matters, and the affected agencies confirmed to the ICIG that four emails contained classified information that did not originate with the State Department. Two of the emails contained Top Secret/SCI material -- the most highly classified. "Sensitive Compartmented" material has limited access, and requires security clearance holders to sign additional paper work, "to be read in, and off" the project. This second NDA is designed to reinforce how important it is to protect the information as well as sources and methods.

    On Friday, based on anonymous sourcing, Politico reported that "the U.S. intelligence community has retreated from claims that two emails in Hillary Clinton’s private account contained top-secret information,"

    A spokeswoman for the ICIG, Andrea. G. Williams, told Fox the classification had not changed, and no formal notification had been received by her office. The State Department requested a second review of the emails by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence who oversees the 17 agencies. A statement was expected Friday from the ODNI, that no such determination had been made and the review was ongoing.

    The Clinton campaign seemed quick to seize on the Politico report, in light of the now public NDAs. A second NDA for classified information, not specific to special programs, signed by Mrs. Clinton also became public.

    Clinton aides had countered the NDA by referring to the Politico report.

    The NDAs played a significant role in the prosecution of former CIA Director David Petraeus for wrongly providing highly classified information to his mistress and biographer Paula Broadwell. Petraeus, like Clinton, signed NDAs and a statement of fact filed in his case with the federal court stated that his "criminal conduct" was based on violations of the NDAs signed with the Defense Department and CIA.


    Catherine Herridge is an award-winning Chief Intelligence correspondent for FOX News Channel (FNC) based in Washington, D.C. She covers intelligence, the Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security. Herridge joined FNC in 1996 as a London-based correspondent.
     
  2. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I don't see the relevance, Mags. She didn't, in fact, leak sensitive information. The NDA would be a great fact for your side if Ed Snowden had got his information from Hillary's server, but he didn't. Given that, it's hard to see how her email server is clearly 'negligent handling'.

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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    The relevance is that she said that the emails coming in were not labeled "classified" so it isn't applied "classified." She signed that documents don't need to be labeled "classified" to be "classified".
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Ok... that certainly sounds, uh, important. However it doesn't appear that she violated the NDA.

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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    If an email is labeled "classified" after the FBI is reviewing them, then her NDA agreement is in violation. Here is the link to the actual "signed NDA" It clearly states she should be responsible for "ANY" classified documents. That means anything that was on her email labeled "classified" is her responsibility.

     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I don't think so. You'd have to show that she was negligent about protecting that classified info, not merely that it was classified.

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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I don't know if you know this, but... sending an email over a private server, with a third party, non-authorized by the government company is not secure. You know this right? Why do you think the dude is pleading the 5th? He knows she's in deep shit
     
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    Isn't her NDA classified? The Daily Mail is releasing classified documents to prove that Hillary released classified documents?
     
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    Who is "the dude"? Apparently I am not following the story as closely as you.

    It is not the case that a private email server is necessarily less secure than a government server.

    And if government servers are so secure, explain Snowden.

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    I would assume its not since they've publicized it

    P.S. Just looked at the bottom of the documents and it says "Unclassified" under the case file. I guess it's public record
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Come on dude, stop playing dumb... Bryan Pagliano
     
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    I missed that news from September. I don't really understand why he took the 5th, don't see what crimes he could have committed as the IT guy.

    But anyway, the lack of testimony from him doesn't prove that Clinton treated classified material negligently.

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    He pleaded the 5th to probably work out a deal with the Feds.
     
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    Could be... she may in fact have murdered hundreds of people and stolen billions of dollars, and will be put to death eventually. That still won't make the NDA relevant.

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    Not really... Don't need to hyperbole the outcome. It should be much easier to put Hillary in prison for being unable to maintain her NDA.
     
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    You guys keep spelling DNA wrong.

    And Hillary not being able to maintain hers proves she's an alien.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Of course you see no relevance. She didn't mention pyramids.
     
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    The problem with that is there is no evidence, or even suggestion, that she violated the NDA.

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I don't see what your hat has to do with it.

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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    You're all over pyramids like white on rice.

    You pretend to be blind to incompetence followed by obstruction of justice.

    Seems like the priority is fucked up just a tad.
     

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