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  1. porky88

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FLORIDA PACKER)</div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know the Dolphins straight up Bitch slapped the Rams, that was no Fluke.</div>

    And we didn't?

    After we surrendered a 10 point lead to them as well.</div>

    I dunno but talking bout the 2004 season and the Bills "bitch slapping" teams sure is making me tired. .................
     
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    slowly but surely, some of you are starting to eat your words.

    again, I said don't take what I said out of context, and DD just couldn't grasp that point.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>slowly but surely, some of you are starting to eat your words.

    again, I said don't take what I said out of context, and DD just couldn't grasp that point.</div>

    Eat our words. What in the hell made us eat our words?? Those little rankings. haha.
     
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    No, but there were those of you who were stating that they believed Roethlisberger was a better athlete.

    Now some of you (except the Dolphin fan - how unexpected was that?) are starting to see what I've been talking about - Losman is a better scrambler and is giving us another dimension on O that will make it tougher for teams to stop us in the redzone.
     
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    now we've never had a poll that ask who is the better athlete Losman or Big Ben. Losman is probably the better athlete but Big Ben is the better QB by far right now. Who knows what the future holds.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FLORIDA PACKER)</div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know the Dolphins straight up Bitch slapped the Rams, that was no Fluke.</div>

    And we didn't?

    After we surrendered a 10 point lead to them as well.</div>

    I wasn't reffering to the Bills as inferior there or anything, I was jus giving an example of a Dolphins game that I knew was not a fluke, that game at New England goes in my book there to, they just straight up beat them.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>slowly but surely, some of you are starting to eat your words.

    again, I said don't take what I said out of context, and DD just couldn't grasp that point.</div>

    You aren't capable of writing anything that I can't grasp. You just hide behind nebulous phrases like "don't take what I said out of context" because there isn't an intelligent defense for the crap that you spew.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>His last game, he led three scoring drives, why don't we see how he fairs against a better then solid Bears D - maybe you'll shut up - then again, I'm not that lucky.</div>

    J.P. Losman 7-14-59-0-0

    Wow! What an amazing performance! Okay, he did run for 35 yards and a touchdown, but it's going to take more than a 50% pass completion % to impress me.
     
  9. J-E-T-S 1083

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    ...and DD is hard to impress [​IMG]

    yea again just cause u might be a better athlete doesnt mean anything about being a better QB. And personalatly i think u (Tko) will do more of eating ur words than us who have been trying to make u relieze that ur overhyping the Bills
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>His last game, he led three scoring drives, why don't we see how he fairs against a better then solid Bears D - maybe you'll shut up - then again, I'm not that lucky.</div>

    J.P. Losman 7-14-59-0-0

    Wow! What an amazing performance! Okay, he did run for 35 yards and a touchdown, but it's going to take more than a 50% pass completion % to impress me.</div>

    In all fairness, his completion percentage would have been much higher then that game - our recievers had a lot of balls hit them in the hands or in the chest they just couldn't bring them in. Losman does have a habit of putting too much heat on his passes. Either our recievers need to get some better hands (i'm pretty sure this is just a result of preseason jitters though), or he needs to learn that you don't necessarily have to throw a bullet every time to complete a pass.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>slowly but surely, some of you are starting to eat your words.

    again, I said don't take what I said out of context, and DD just couldn't grasp that point.</div>

    You aren't capable of writing anything that I can't grasp. You just hide behind nebulous phrases like "don't take what I said out of context" because there isn't an intelligent defense for the crap that you spew.</div>

    What ever dude, you've already proven my point.

    I guarantee you that if you asked the same question about Roethlisberger and Vick, despite Vick's ineptitude in the passing game, you'd still get about 99% of all responses in Vick's favor - because Vick - like Losman and Roethlisberger have the armstrength to make all of the throws necessary to play the game - his timing just sucks. Losman's only fault is that he flushes from the pocket too soon and doesn't have that much faith in our O line (which by the way is coming along very nicely - definitely way ahead of where they were this time last year).

    Actually if you think about it, that's not necessarily a fault - it is actually a very good way for us to dictate to the defense early on because if they blitz and it's the wrong blitz, guess what, your blitzers just overpursued and got behind the offense's best blockers - the linemen while Losman is on the other side of them - teams will have to consider reacting instead of attacking him which will open up the game to McGahee. I don't know how many of you have seen any bills games, but he's got a great internal clock - he rarely lets the ball remain behind the line of scrimmage longer then 3 1/2 seconds (compared to Bledsoe who would take a sack more often then even trying to throw a completely uncatchable ball near a reciever).

    By that same standard - Losman still made it to the pros, so obviously he's got the skills however raw they may be (though he too is coming along nicely - Mike Mularkey loves this kid - he says every day he sees him in practice he knows more and more that he made the right decision on Bledsoe).

    A major reason that he didn't go before Roethlisberger is because he had an off season his senior year and because of his cocky attitude (one that made people mention Ryan Leaf when talking about him) and he had a reputation of yelling at his players - me personally - I like the fact that he's not affraid to chew people out who maybe missed a blocking assignment or ran the wrong route, or didn't get far enough downfield on a route to pick up the first down on 3rd and 8, or got a stupid drive killing penalty.

    I guarantee you that if he progressed in his senior season instead of regressed from his junior year (that can definitely be attributed to the fact that college teams lose a lot of players every year), he would have probably been taken no lower then #3 overall in his draft (or maybe Pittsburgh would have picked him up and we would have ended up with Roethlisberger - which at the time either one would have made me happy - but now Losman is definitely the more intriguing of the two).
     
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    I also really love the fact that we hired an offensive minded coach in a division of defensive minded coaches, and the fact that we've seen what Mularkey managed to squeeze out of Kordell Stewart and Tommy Maddux, along with the fact that he coordinated an offensive attack that saw 2 1,000 + yard recievers in pittsburgh with Burress and Ward.

    I'm sure you all know that teams right now are pretty much only running the most basic of their plays, and Losman is doing good (I could have used the word great, but I'll save that for week 1) - what I'm really getting at is that I absolutely can't wait to see the trick plays that we come up with during games that will further help to make D's uncertain about what to do to stop us.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>His last game, he led three scoring drives, why don't we see how he fairs against a better then solid Bears D - maybe you'll shut up - then again, I'm not that lucky.</div>

    J.P. Losman 7-14-59-0-0

    Wow! What an amazing performance! Okay, he did run for 35 yards and a touchdown, but it's going to take more than a 50% pass completion % to impress me.</div>

    In all fairness, his completion percentage would have been much higher then that game - our recievers had a lot of balls hit them in the hands or in the chest they just couldn't bring them in. Losman does have a habit of putting too much heat on his passes. Either our recievers need to get some better hands (i'm pretty sure this is just a result of preseason jitters though), or he needs to learn that you don't necessarily have to throw a bullet every time to complete a pass.</div>

    I'm not sure how you can lay the blame on the WRs. They caught 7 of 9 balls that Kelly Holcomb threw and 8 of 11 total from QBs not named Losman.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    J.P. Losman 7-14-59-0-0

    Wow! What an amazing performance! Okay, he did run for 35 yards and a touchdown, but it's going to take more than a 50% pass completion % to impress me.</div>

    In all fairness, his completion percentage would have been much higher then that game - our recievers had a lot of balls hit them in the hands or in the chest they just couldn't bring them in. Losman does have a habit of putting too much heat on his passes. Either our recievers need to get some better hands (i'm pretty sure this is just a result of preseason jitters though), or he needs to learn that you don't necessarily have to throw a bullet every time to complete a pass.</div>

    I'm not sure how you can lay the blame on the WRs. They caught 7 of 9 balls that Kelly Holcomb threw and 8 of 11 total from QBs not named Losman.</div>


    Haven't you noticed the pattern in all his posts..It's not Loseman's Fault...How could it be...His receivers just didn't BILLIEVE...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>What ever dude, you've already proven my point.

    I guarantee you that if you asked the same question about Roethlisberger and Vick, despite Vick's ineptitude in the passing game, you'd still get about 99% of all responses in Vick's favor - because Vick - like Losman and Roethlisberger have the armstrength to make all of the throws necessary to play the game - his timing just sucks. Losman's only fault is that he flushes from the pocket too soon and doesn't have that much faith in our O line (which by the way is coming along very nicely - definitely way ahead of where they were this time last year).

    Actually if you think about it, that's not necessarily a fault - it is actually a very good way for us to dictate to the defense early on because if they blitz and it's the wrong blitz, guess what, your blitzers just overpursued and got behind the offense's best blockers - the linemen while Losman is on the other side of them - teams will have to consider reacting instead of attacking him which will open up the game to McGahee. I don't know how many of you have seen any bills games, but he's got a great internal clock - he rarely lets the ball remain behind the line of scrimmage longer then 3 1/2 seconds (compared to Bledsoe who would take a sack more often then even trying to throw a completely uncatchable ball near a reciever).

    By that same standard - Losman still made it to the pros, so obviously he's got the skills however raw they may be (though he too is coming along nicely - Mike Mularkey loves this kid - he says every day he sees him in practice he knows more and more that he made the right decision on Bledsoe).

    A major reason that he didn't go before Roethlisberger is because he had an off season his senior year and because of his cocky attitude (one that made people mention Ryan Leaf when talking about him) and he had a reputation of yelling at his players - me personally - I like the fact that he's not affraid to chew people out who maybe missed a blocking assignment or ran the wrong route, or didn't get far enough downfield on a route to pick up the first down on 3rd and 8, or got a stupid drive killing penalty.

    I guarantee you that if he progressed in his senior season instead of regressed from his junior year (that can definitely be attributed to the fact that college teams lose a lot of players every year), he would have probably been taken no lower then #3 overall in his draft (or maybe Pittsburgh would have picked him up and we would have ended up with Roethlisberger - which at the time either one would have made me happy - but now Losman is definitely the more intriguing of the two).</div>

    You tickle me the way you take a flaw, like overthrowing receivers and leaving the pocket too early, and turn them into skills. That's not as precious as the way you blame everyone else if Losman doesn't perform well because if he only completed 50% of his passes it must be the WR's fault. [​IMG]

    Losman is only more intriguing that Roethlisberger to you because he is a Bill. You would be crowing about Big Ben if he were a Bill.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>I also really love the fact that we hired an offensive minded coach in a division of defensive minded coaches, and the fact that we've seen what Mularkey managed to squeeze out of Kordell Stewart and Tommy Maddux, along with the fact that he coordinated an offensive attack that saw 2 1,000 + yard recievers in pittsburgh with Burress and Ward.

    I'm sure you all know that teams right now are pretty much only running the most basic of their plays, and Losman is doing good (I could have used the word great, but I'll save that for week 1) - what I'm really getting at is that I absolutely can't wait to see the trick plays that we come up with during games that will further help to make D's uncertain about what to do to stop us.</div>

    You could have used the word great, but it would have a fabrication.
     
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    Just to say something. I watched the game. Losman maybe had 1 or 2 drops and thats it. He played well with his legs against GB not his arm. He had a 62.0 passer rating.
     
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    I did not watch the game, but looking at the stats, it looks like Losman is on pace to be a regular QB. Can you tell this from one game? Absolutely not.

    The idea that we can know right now if Losman is going to be a quality QB in this league or a complete bust is quite unrealistic. Let's let the season play out, then decide how good he really is.
     
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    You really cant tell till what he is gonna be like untill the regular season when he goes up against the great defenses
     
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    1.How the Hell are the Bills in front of the Burgh and our 2nd string is better than them. Maybe they shoulda ranked them. I.E Last year

    2.No way in hell are the Igles the #2 team right now...I can name 6 teams they couldnt beat off the top of my head in week 1. Steel Town will get in there ass...I.E Preseason game after the 1str Q

    3. Last Time I checked the Chargers didnt even make it out the 1st round of the playoffs...People are playing roulette thinking they are gonna win atleast 11 games this year.

    4. The J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS....How are they gonna hype them up on last years pittsburgh game that they lost. Especially when we played our worst game of the year offensivly...come on...they couldnt beat us on our worst day. I.E. Last years playoff game

    5. Panthers #7? We are hoping they will be good next year. But I like carolina, they play my style of football. But people are putting more attention to pittsburgh losing burres who did nothing really special last year than Musin Muh. I dont think they are a #7 team but will make a wild card this year so far.

    Conclusion.
    1. Pats
    2.Steel
    3.RatBirds
    4.Colts
    5.Igles

    is how it should be
     

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