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  1. Mediocre Man

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    compete in futility? Also gives us really good young talent in Williams, which is likely better than what we'd be getting by dipping back into the lottery. A Jennings, Matthews, Williams, Aldridge, Joel(just going to assume Bogut keeps hurting himself here) lineup aint bad.
     
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    If Beasly for Crawford happens. I would do this trade soon after. Seems Orlando wants Nash bad. They think Nash would be perfect to compliment Howard and keep him in Orlando.

    Three-team deal between PDX, PHX, ORL

    Portland trades: Matthews, G. Wallace, R. Felton. They receive: Nelson, Redick, Frye and Orlando's first rounder.

    Orlando trades: Nelson, Reddick, their first rounder and R. Anderson. They receive: Nash, Matthews and Warrick.

    Phoenix trades: Nash, Frye and Warrick. They receive G. Wall, Felton and Anderson.

    New starting line-up: Nelson, Batum, Beasly, Aldridge, Frye

    Key reserves: Reddick, E Will, Pryzbilla and Thomas. I would try and release or use Chris Johnson to one of the teams, so we can sign Mills too. I think he would be a good back-up.
     
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    Mags you need to stop making trades just to make trades... that team would be HORRIBLE, it would eat up all our cap space, and I guarantee we wouldn't be better than we are right now. Seriously, I would rather just keep Batum, EWill and Aldridge and build from there. Frye is overpaid. Nelson would be horrible here. Reddick is meh. I don't mind the idea of Beasley but it's a big gamble.
     
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    Actually it wouldn't. We would still have 10-12 mil still to offer. We traded Matthews; which is guaranteed 7 mil this summer. There is no guarantee that Wallace will opt out, so it only leaves "Failton's expiring of 7.6 mil"

    If you look closely at this deal: Matthews 6.1, Wallace 9.5, and Failton 7.6 = That is 23 mil. We get back 21 mil in contracts. If we have them get a Smith for an additional 1.7 mil; it's not that bad.
     
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    There is a guarantee that if he is healthy he will. I hate that people say there isn't, he is the #1 or 2 (depending on what you say of Batum)SF on the market and if healthy will get a nice size contract because of all the teams with huge amounts of capspace and the new clause in the CBA that teams have to use 90% of the cap.
    Fact of the matter this team doesn't need major overhauls this year because of how we have positioned ourselves for the off season. Lets just ride it out and it we miss the playoffs we get a lottery pick and have amazing capspace. There isn't a good reason to give up young talent for Nash and then have to take back bad contracts on top of him. We will have so much flexibility in the off season that we would be able to make a trade for a #1 in 2013 pick then turn our lottery pick into one of the RFA on a new contract like Jrue Holiday.
    Three weeks ago I wanted to do everything we could to get a new PG and make a run at the playoffs, now watching this team I like the idea of keeping our options open. Make trades but only if it keeps our capspace open this summer unless of course its for a very good player.
    Something like http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7elhku5 which deals Crawford to Minnesota for Beasley and deals Wallace to the Rockets for a bunch of guys who expire this summer and two maybe okay players in Hill/Morris. This is just off the top of my head dunno if the rockets would do this but I know they like Wallace and want to try and make a big splash in the playoffs. I would also only do those trades if it was pretty apparent we were going to the lotto.
     
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    haha woops....it was felton camby and nic for ray allen and rondo. salaries worked
     
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    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=86f48y8 or http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=87y4zvd

    Thoughts on these?

    I've always felt like Memphis was misusing Mayo and I think he could flourish as a ball-dominant guard similar to BRoy. At worst he's an expiring, at best, putting the ball in his hands and letting him run the show could be a steal (he's been a headache and a "me" player, but you can't deny his talent)... He's the type of guard you could put next to somewhat more passive guys like Aldridge and Batum.

    Memphis has won 9 of their last 10 games and is making a push to be competitive in the playoffs like they did last year. Wallace would come in as a glue/hustle guy, or Crawford could come in and provide more experience in a very similar role that they're using Mayo in now...

    I guess I see this as a "worth it" trade from the "why not?" perspective...
     
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    I don't hate either trade, but I see no reason to bring in Mayo when we have a player like Williams who might be as good not getting a lot of time
     
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    To clarify my idea - I'm suggesting we do this trade to give Mayo a 20ish game tryout at POINT GUARD.
     
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    Then sure. Either he or Williams to see if they can play it the right way, not the Nate way. Both played some in college
     
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    Agreed. I'm definitely all for giving EWill a shot at the point as well... Just see a "buy low" opportunity on Mayo with nothing but upside...
     
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    Three-way between Minny, Toronto and Portland

    Toronto sends: Calderon and their first rounder. They receive G. Wallace and Luke Ridnour.

    Portland sends: G. Wallace and Jamal Crawford. They receive Toronto's pick, Calderon and Beasly.

    Minny sends: Beasly and Luke Ridnour. They receive Jamal Crawford.

    I know this isn't a "OMG, this changes everything" type deal, but I think we can get a good first rounder out of it. We would have a decent PGofTF in return.

    Then I would do this deal.

    Three-Way between Orlando, Phoenix and Portland

    Portland trades: Felton and Kurt Thomas. They receive J. J. Reddick.

    Orlando trades: Nelson, their first rounder, Richardson and Reddick. They receive Frye, Nash and Warrick.

    Phoenix trades: Nash, Frye and Warrick. They receive Felton, Nelson, Richardson, Thomas and Orlando's first rounder.
     
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    toronto is not moving their first round pick with calderon. That's terrible.
     
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    Found out that Minny still has Utah's protected. We can just take that one I guess, since that's the rumor.
     
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    portland can't send 14 and 16 picks to Orlando. Would have to be 15 and 17 picks.
     

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