Interesting, I would have thought the Blazers would have had to take Gay back as well. I hope it happens though.
That may not be all of the trade, simply based around those players and other smaller pieces to make it work.
Gay is not a liability to them. He is having a great year and does not have a lengthy or expensive contract.
Yeah but they're gonna wanna shed that contract if they're truly gonna blow it up. They need: Young players on longer deals. High draft picks. Money.
Sounds good but I don't see how it's possible this year with CJs contract and all. Cousins upgrades our defense both on the interior and on the perimeter (since I'm assuming Crabbe would start.) Offensively it's a wash. Both CJ and Cousins can score at will.
If Cousins wants to be in Portland, I like Cousins a lot more than Whiteside (though I like Whiteside too). Cousins is a better two-way player--he's not the defensive wrecking crew that Whiteside is but, in the periods where he's put in effort, he's been a good defensive player and the Kings have been significantly better defensively with him on the court than with him off. Of course, if Cousins doesn't have any interest in being a Trail Blazer, I wouldn't be interested. An engaged Cousins can compete with players like Davis and KAT for best big man in the league. A petulant, checked-out Cousins is just importing the Kings' biggest problem. So, the Blazers would need to get permission to talk to Cousins before any deal, to gauge his interest, in my opinion. An enthusiastic Cousins is, to me, worth a lot more than McCollum. He impacts the game more ways and can actually be a building block to a much better defense.
Why would u trade a star in Cj whose locked up for the next 5 years for a star that's most likely going to bail after his contract ends next year? Now do I think the trade is fair? Absolutely. Kings would be happy to have a star return to them whose locked up for the foreseeable future. But blazers would be dumb to do that trade since Cousins will be unrestricted soon..
This is what I don't understand. Why even bother building a winning team if your always afraid of your star players bailing when there contract ends? Your going to have take chances at some point.
I'm still trying to understand how Dame drinks like a fish, but we all have things we may never know.
We're not winning a ring if we don't trade C.J for Cousins either. So we get C.J. for a couple years longer only to develop some more players and keep building though the draft. Maybe with making some minor trades along the way.
I understand that; but the guy I was replying to seems to think we will get a better deal on Cousins if we also take Gay. I have read somewhere they are already getting decent offers for Gay alone.
Meaning I don't think we're that one trade away from being contenders, although I do think it gets us closer. Still not worth it unless cousins is committed to being here longer than one season.
I don't think anybody is suggesting that CJ for DMC would be the one move that would put us over the top, but (as you say) that it could get us closer. I think we're mostly in agreement here.