Olshey interview with Jaynes

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  1. Orion Bailey

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    Also. A good gm knows plans should be fluid because every year things change.
     
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    That’s complete nonsense.

    Easy nurk trade? He flogged them into a better player than plums and a first round pick!!
    Easy trades to make are the ones you lose on. Not where you win.

    You don’t make trades just to make trades. That is not a good message to players when trying to build a culture.

    Show me one team that lost four of five starters and turned it around in a year? Hell show me a team that lost two starters and turned it around in a year.
    Clippers say hello. Atlanta says hello.

    The nba isn’t a McDonald’s drive thru.....

    You are not realistic.
     
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    Why the hell are we referencing 2015 OB?
     
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    Correct. You make trades basic on the team's trajectory.
     
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    Ask @jlprk he is the one who brought it up.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    In post #99, I quoted you about 3 years.

    I have seen many teams reverse direction in one year or less. In fact, I see the Blazers do so every season.
     
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    Apples to oranges. The talk was building a dynasty and contending. Not changing directions.
    So in your assessment they have been changing directions every year. I don’t even know what your point was now cause you twisted it all around.

    Rebuilds do not successfully happen in 6 months. Show me one team that lost half their starters and turned it around in one year without losing players via trade?

    I’ll be patiently waiting for your examples. A team and a year to be specific please. :)
     
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    Indiana Pacers, 2018.
     
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    Some of the spin people are putting on unequivocally awful moves by Neil has me dizzy. Y'all should be on the PR team. This Dame leaving noise is only going to grow louder next yr. The fact that it's even there is 100% on Neil, and is grounds for firing
     
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    Sometimes noise is just noise.
     
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    We haven't won a single playoff game in two years and have a first team all NBA talent in his prime on our team. "Dynasty." Lmao. This is just piss poor team building and complete mis-management of the cap. I can't believe people have these blinders on with Neil even now.
     
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    They are contenders?

    LOL Good one.
     
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    Also, they traded. Not lost.
     
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    Alright. It's been three fucking years...

    ...and I get your point if it wasn't smugfuck Olshey. Dude isn't we-are-building-something-here-kumbaya, he's defensive and cagey and unclear. He doesn't seem to want the fans to feel good. And we've heard this line of reason that if other people know our plans then we're in trouble, to which I say give me a break. People, players and execs--except Paul Allen and Woj--don't seem to like Olshey. Nobody's out there trying to block us from doing things unless it's because Olshey is a fuckass.
     
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    Just curious, why do you think other execs don't like Olshey?
     
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    everything...you think our 27 28 year old players are going to degenerate...you think young guys like Nurk can't help them now...sorry..not buying what you're selling here...Spurs were starting 40 year olds and winning...it's a team game, not an age matching game. Ed Davis was the oldest guy on the roster and everyone wanted him back...Chauncey Billups and Sheed just started winning big in their 30s...got a ring.
     
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    Actually, Neil's plan is pretty clear.

    He fucked up in 2016 because we couldn't get an elite free agent and he extended and signed a bunch of horrible deals.

    Now we're stuck in cap hell, we can't deal these shitty contracts without sending out picks, and his only real tradable assets are guys he doesn't want to trade.

    So now, instead of trying to dump the contracts, he's rolling the dice on raw players with a high ceiling in the hopes that one of them goes big and saves his ass. He'll continue to do this until the contracts expire in two years.
     
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    Since when was that a caveot?
     
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    What's the point here?
     
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    I'm mostly just projecting my feelings about him, honestly. But I do think, based on inference and much of it, that players don't like him. As to the fact that no GM will ever come out to play with Olshey says something to me as well.
     

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