Omar Mateen, mass shooter.

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  1. blue32

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    I have gay family members so I don't give a shit about who loves who, who gets married, all that jazz.

    But this whole gender neutrality stuff is bullshit. Sorry, I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks; the fact is, genes/DNA declare what a human is. Trying to change that, you are suffering from a chemical imbalance/disorder; catering to those people is enabling their mental disorder.
     
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  2. blue32

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    Better reserve every letter in the alphabet and then some.
     
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    Ok, forget the cogent! Just bring what ever shit you think you have.
     
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    I called you a homophobe because of your words to me. And your other comments. Do I need to quote your own words?
    I did not, however, throw personal insults to you about your ass etc.

    Was the killer a homophobe? Obviously. That did not need saying. When you claim the dead were just killed because they were "Americans" you are the one denying that.

    Yeah, I fucking need to vent when people in my community get murdered. They were not killed as "Americans" (some of them were actually foreign nationals and not Americans), they were killed as a specific subset of people living in America. To ignore that is to invalidate their lives.
     
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    The killer was gay.

    Now what?
     
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    Wow, so they let the wife go and now they can't find her.
     
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    http://www.tmz.com/2016/06/23/omar-mateen-gay-hotel-surveillance-cameras-fbi/

    Portions of Omar Mateen's alleged hookup with at least one gay man were captured on surveillance cameras at an Orlando hotel ... TMZ has learned.

    Sources at the Ambassador Hotel tell TMZ, Mateen was seen on camera footage recorded December 14, 2015 around 11 PM. We're told the video bolsters the claims of the heavily disguised man who told Univision he met up with Mateen 15-20 times at the hotel between November and December.
     
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    I'll just leave this right here.

     
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    Regardless of whether they were Americans (some were not) or gay (maybe some were not), the real travesty here is the loss of life at the hands of a terrorist attack on domestic soil.
     
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    I have no idea who Bill Whittle is but doubt he "destroyed" Obama. A lot of people have claimed to have "destroyed" Obama over the past 8 years or so.

    Was Mateen gay? A lot of homophobes are in fact closeted gays, trying to "kill the gay" in themselves. That's why over and over we see far right lawmakers with a record of proposing and supporting antigay legislation and making extreme antigay speeches, get caught with handsome male escorts.

    Reportedly his murder spree was triggered by seeing two men kiss. If true, and no one has contradicted that, it's denying reality to say it has nothing to do with the victims being gay.

    The NY Times asked a number of gay/lesbian/bi/trans celebs about their first gay bar experience.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/23/f...-region&region=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well

    If you scroll down, John Amaechi, while a closeted NBA player, went to a gay bar and recognized Bill Kennedy, a then closeted NBA ref.

    Donald Trump has appointed the country's leading homophobic organizers to his advisory board. Ralph Reed, James Dobson, Jerry Falwell Jr, , Robert Jeffries. Ask the gays how much they love him.
     
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    It obviously has to do with the victims being gay. It appears to have nothing to do with homophobia.

    So you turn this into a hate Trump thread now? I'm fine with it. I think he's trying to reach out to the gay community and he's got to balance getting support from the Falwell types along with his historical support for LGBT. Including his most recent statement that trans people are welcome to use the bathrooms of their choice on Trump properties.
     
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    I'm not turning it into a hate Trump thread. He inserted himself into the discussion. He also walked back his trans access statement. If saying "gays love me" is so out there it has to be balanced with top 5 bigots as advisors, well, I'm not the only one to say pretty unbalanced.

    If people are killed because they are Black it's racism. If people are killed because they are Jews it's anti-Semitism. If people are killed because they are gay and Latin it's homophobia and racism both. What else can it be called when this particular group was targeted?
     
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    If black people are killed by black people who happen to be black, what is it?

    If gay people are killed by gay people who happen to be gay, what is it?

    Trump has not walked back his statement.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/24/opinions/trump-transgender-bathrooms-opinion-cupp/

    On the issue of legislating transgender bathrooms --and maybe only on this issue, if you ask me -- Trump is completely right, and his rival Ted Cruz completely wrong.

    The billionaire said Thursday on the "Today" show on NBC that, "There have been very few complaints the way it is. People go, they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate. There has been so little trouble, and the problem with what happened in North Carolina is the strife and the economic punishment that they're taking. So I would say that's probably the best way.

    (he's against the legislation in NC, get it?)
     
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    Ridiculous response and there are many gays that love Trump. I have many gay friends that are voting for Trump.

    What I can tell you is the left threw the gays under the bus by blaming gun violence for the murder of 49 gay men and women. The same left that accepts tens of millions from Arab countries whom put gays in prison, or worse, execute them just for being gay.
     
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    Ok Crandc, I guess you have nothing but want to use the word. We are done here.
     
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    It's not the color/orientation of the killer that indicates racism/homophobia, but the reasoning for the killing. If a black man killed other black people because they were black, his own blackness doesn't make it any less racism. The same is true of this (presumably) gay man killing gay people because they were gay.
     
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    Well, the terrorist (Islamic) have been killing Americans because they are, without regard to whether they are Black, white, Jews, Gay or what have you. But in this case you may have a point. Since he is a Muslim and being gay is a bad bad,
    he may so self loathing that he did target gays as well as himself. Go out with a bang, a multi mission bang, himself and other bottom of class infidels (gays). However, if he had stuck with Disneyland as was apparently and alternate possibility, then what? Seems to me, he got a two bagger with his final decision.
     
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    I agree with you, but....

    From what I understand, in today's stupid ass classes (and listening to DVISS), they are teaching kids that black (or other minorities)people can't be racist because they are not in a position of power, or some shit like that. I think JFizzle or someone said something identical to that, from his class.

    ^^ which I think is completely fucking stupid.
     
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    Bingo...
     
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    It's still not racism. It's something else entirely. More like a mental problem. Can't deal with being black or game theirself.
     

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