One trade people will hate but we need to make.

I'm also not even convinced that our defense would be that much better, as he said.

 

You guys don't understand... Conley and Allen will get us to the playoffs... I mean, look at how good Memphis is... oh you mean they have a worse record??

 

Well, to be fair, Gasol was out for a while. He's pretty much the heart and soul of that team. Funny enough, they got rid of Hollins and the team went to shit.

 

Look if you want an analysis on it that's great, and while defense is definitely very beneficial, it isn't the end all be all in the NBA, you still have to score more than your opponents. With basketball it's a balance. In your proposal Conley becomes our 2nd scorer, but isn't even as efficient as Matthews, and Allen isn't even as efficient as Lopez. So we trade our 2nd and 3rd scoring options for guys that become 2nd (But worse than our current 3rd) and our new 5th scorer. Ok so we would be a bit better on D, but would we wouldn't be as good on D as Memphis currently is and that teams not winning a title any time soon, mostly because they lack a Dynamic scorer.

 

I have to agree with this. HCP rarely actually posts about the team. He mostly posts about himself

 

Offensive Rating - Defensive Rating - Net (Ratings are points produced or allowed per 100 posessions)
Lillard: 117 - 111 - +6
Matthews: 120 -110 - +10
Total Net: +16

Conley: 115 - 106 - +9
Allen: 103 - 102 - +1
Total Net: +10

And we get to get older across the board, and give up a dynamic... Let me stress that dynamic scorer. One key to playoffs is having a guy that can make the big shot, Conley is not that.

 

NEP Culture

 

3 full pages of what? This forum? I just told you I along with a few others have stopped posting because of the influx of bullshit. Rook, are you questioning if I make this forum better or not?

 

I putting down 70 hour work weeks this time of year......I tend to talk more hoops from May-October FAMS.

 

They lack a dynamic scorer and a perimeter threat outside of Conley, Portland would still have LA and they would still have Williams, Batum and McCollum who can shoot the ball from downtown. Memphis biggest weaknesses do not exist here.

If Ricky Rubio is dropping 20 on your PG and George Hill is going for over 30 WTF is Steph Curry, Goran Dragic, Eric Bledsoe, Russell Westbrook, Tony Parker or Chris Paul going to do.

 

You getting all this Neil?

 

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l6gufkx

I think this trade is better, what do you guys think?

 

This is a star league man. Conley is not a star. Allen is so old, he'll be out of the league in two or three years. You're giving up an All-Star for, essentially, two role players.

Also, you're assuming that Dame will not improve at defense. He's only halfway through his second year in the league. In 1.5 seasons he has already won the ROY and been selected to an All-Star team. Show some faith. Conley was drafted in 2007 with Oden. He's in his seventh season. You're giving up on Lillard way too early in his career as a defender.

Go compare Conley in his second season to Lillard in his second season. It's a joke. Not even close.
http://www.basketball-reference.com...m=0&p1=conlemi01&y1=2009&p2=lillada01&y2=2014

Every single one of the guys you listed have been in the league for quite a while (except Rubio). Of course they're going to beat up a guy who hasn't even been in the league a full two years.

 

This is not OregonLive. Please stop spamming this Forum. Trade proposals are the worst threads because there are simply waay too many variables behind the scenes, just because it works in the trade machine does not make it realistic in the slightest.

 

Newbies gettin out of control

 

It's all because HCP isn't here to put them in their place often enough.

 

Wow, I didn't realize there was such a thing as a post history. You can look up all my posts? And Jamal Crawford was instant offense, kinda' like me. As for taking my keyboard and going home.......I am a freelance employee, so my schedule is very loose, I already am home.

 

This is the only thing I can think of. They are like roaches......

 

I don't think we need to trade Lillard but I do think we should explore trades for Wes Mathews or Nick Batum to bring in a 3rd star. What would it take to get Trevor Ariza and John Wall?

 

Our starting 5 scores 1.15 pts per possession and gives up 1.07 (+0.08)
Memphis starting 5 scores 1.05 per and gives up 1.02 (+0.03)
Indiana's starting 5 scores 1.09 per and gives up 0.96 (+0.13)
Miami starting 5 scores 1.15 per and gives up 1.09 (+0.06)
San Antonios Starting 5 Scores 0.92 and gives up 0.94 (-0.02)
LA Clippers starting 5 scores 1.14 and gives up 1.05 (+0.09)

So looking at the top teams in the league with have the 3rd best ratio, and the best ratio team is the best defensive team but is also a good offensive team.