Politics Orange Man Bad! (A safe space for people who don't like Trump)

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  1. Hoopguru

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    Joe should win in landslide.
     
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    It's unlikely to be a landslide. I think if the election were held today, Biden would be the winner and the Democrats would have a 50/50 shot at taking the Senate (and a near-100% chance of holding the House). However, things could shift quite a bit in the next 6 months--Biden's lead (and Trump's low approval ratings) aren't substantial enough to be futureproof for six more months, especially in such volatile times (i.e. the pandemic and the related fallout of policy and to the economy).

    Of course, "things could change" cuts in both directions. It could wipe out Biden's lead or Trump could catch even more blame for his response to the pandemic and see his support erode, as happened to Bush in 2008. Bush went from robust support among Republicans to historic lows by the end of his presidency in large part due to his terrible response to Hurricane Katrina. The collapse of the economy also contributed to that.
     
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    I think Biden would win if the election were today too. There is 5 and a half months till the election. I don't expect too much to change in that time. In 2 months Biden with select his running mate and we will have the Democratic convention in some form. If Biden picks some one dynamic it will give him another push. There is no push in the cards for Trump, save the republican convention which will see a small rise in his numbers. Then by November we may as already be in the 2nd wave of Coronavirus and without a vaccine still, because Trump said we don't need one and it's going away. He will look pretty bad if it doesn't. And, if we don't see a second wave by then, or are still in the first, the damage has been done. Biden won't win in a landslide, but he will win.
     
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    I think it depends on a few things. If it turns out the Reade accusations hold no water, of if she suddenly changes her m.o., and comes up with some tangible proof instead of random changes of her story with no backing.

    Also depends on who he picks as the VP candidate.

    But mostly, it depends on if Trump shuts up or not. The more he talks, the worse he looks (to the general audience, not at his rallies). If he stops giving nonsense press conferences, or saying really stupid things, he gains popularity.

    Biden could win, but he could also lose. One thing is for sure, it won't be a landslide victory for Biden.
     
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    I’m not sure why people would think Biden will easily win. At all. Maybe a close one but it won’t be easy. If you are ever wondering “how the fuck does anyone think Trump is remotely qualified to do this job?”, go take a spin around the middle of the country, or rural areas. Massive support of people who are continuing to dig their heels in that he’s the man.
     
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    To me the difference is that it's not about Biden...it's about his ability to build a team and work across the aisle....something Trump has no clue about how to accomplish...the vote will be for a team player...not a loose cannon
     
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    Some of these rural areas that are opening back up and seeing the virus cases surge to 1000% more might seal the deal.
     
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    Those same places are seeing huge surges in the virus.
     
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    Trump has been terrible for people living in rural areas pretty much his entire Presidency, but his supporters there are committed to him heart and soul so they take his word for it that all their struggles are the fault of the Democrats and/or China and/or Mexico. So I wouldn't count on them blaming him for anything Coronavirus-related.
     
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    Hm crazy how that works
     
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    Very true.

    Its really gross.

    The guy is really not charismatic. So I’m not so sure why the cult following. I think we just have a rural America that’s brain washed that Democrats want their guns and wanna kill babies.

    I’ve said for a long time that I honestly think if Charles Manson was the GOP candidate with a decent chance to win that the sheep would embrace him.
     
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    trumps biggest issue is he does and says pretty much everything to cater to his base and does very little to win over new voters.
     
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    That is true of almost all candidates though. I think the difference is, he will say whatever he says one minute and then 2 minutes later contradict himself and then act like he never said anything of the sort...and they buy it.
     
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    ...there's a term for that sort of people...they're called "sheep".
     
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    He doesn’t look like a guy who is scared of incoming indictments

    Put Obama in the same room as anyone who thinks Obamagate is real and he would make them look foolish in 1 minute

    then again he graduated from Harvard with a law degree so what would he know?
     
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    Now trump claims he has been taking hydroxychloroquin for some time now.

    One word describes that statement

    LIAR
     
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    He bought 59 million doses of it and to be fair, his skin is the color of someone with malaria
     
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