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c'mon......this is clearly disrespect aimed at a fellow American ...questioning policy or expressing one's views on shootings in the news is not disrespecting the nation....it's exercising our freedom of speech...pretty American thing to do...you disagree...fine...nobody will question your patriotism for doing so....one would think the courtesy would be extended to Kingspeed.....only one sort of disrespect floating around your post Marz...

 

Strict gun laws in Illinois have no effect on Indiana where most of the murdering guns come from.

 

Which kind of damage are you talking about? If you're talking about strictly how much damage each caliber of bullet can do, the AR-15 is not very high on the list. The 5.56 round (also known as .223) is rather small compared to larger hunting rounds and does not hit with as much force.

If you're talking about overall damage inflicted in terms of number of people killed, hand guns have done vastly more killing than assault rifles. It's not even close. By and large, the AR-15 has killed very few people every year.

 

handguns are so unnecessary..in my view they are a huge problem especially in urban areas...my father used to shoot steers to butcher with a 22 short round..one bullet...steer weighs usually over 1000 lbs..the idea that small caliber bullets can't kill is wrong...

 

And there we differ. Not only do I think he is ill informed, I think he let his mouth run uncontrolled, unconnected to the brain.
But, he can clarify.

 

The constitution is a far better piece of paper than the Bible has ever been. It has protected people from persecution. It has led the way for people to worship whichever god they choose. It allows us to protest and disagree with our government. The bible gives you zero freedoms and protects zero rights. Commandments don't hold up in court. The constitution does. Guns have helped liberate millions of people. They have protected freedoms and lives. Guns have only been around for a few hundred years, but violence and persecution has been around since the dawn of man. We currently live in the safest time in human history. Guns are part of the reason for that safety.

 

pot kettle black.......what exactly would you say this post of yours is doing?

 

He asked what does the most damage. Nobody said anything about small caliber bullets being unable to kill.

 

I'm not him....and for the record....I brought the topic up in reference to your post about the AR15's bullets...

 

Yeah well, you very often do not agree with me. Now let me ask you to consider this question.
Given the following statement quoted, would you believe a man's oath to uphold and defend the Constitution,
or would you consider it bull shit?

"Why do we care SO MUCH about what all these FOUNDING FATHERS thought??? Yes, they started our country but they aren't GOD and they shouldn't be worshipped as such! The Constitution isn't a Bible..."

 

He has every right to express this sentiment...it doesn't have anything to do with him taking an oath...the Constitution is a document...people make it work...not the piece of paper it's written on......it's also been upgraded as time has gone on...that process is now being addressed again..as it should. I feel the same about religion and the Bible.

 

Cool. Nobody even remotely made any kind of reference to the lethality of any kind of bullet. So you're just making a strawman argument.

 

And? Just because the possibility of nuclear war exists, doesn't mean that it will happen. When was the last world war? MAD has prevented a third world war, despite all of the fear mongering to the contrary.

 

interesting you see opinions as arguments

 

You said "the idea that small bullets can't kill is wrong."

Nobody had that idea, so nobody was wrong. Is that correct?

 

our capacity for destruction is way beyond any period in history...we have weapons that can destroy the planet now...we're not safer by a long stretch

 

I had that idea....actually first hand experience....and for the record....I know what I posted...move on if my post doesn't interest you or prop up your take on the topic

 

Their is not one man in this forum that can write an amendment that would appease the liberals, an at the same time, expect it to pass successfully through the amendment process. After repeated times of being asked to offer an amendment, none have do so.
So what is your point except to ignore the Constitutions? And advocate for what you want in spite of the 2nd amendment?