Notice Oregon bill cracks down on racially motivated 911 calls

dviss1 · Jun 5, 2019

H.C. said: ↑

You get what you give remember that.

Wow, just wow.
Dude you're talking to someone who works with the community and knows that people want to be identified as they are.
Doesn't matter if it's White, Black, Green or People who have been diagnosed by a medical professional with a mental health condition.

I understand fully that Black people are proud to be black, and want to be identified as such.
That doesn't mean I should tell you to go build a fence............................................................................
It means you're a black man and you want to be seen as such. Therefore you're seen as a black man who has just as much(If not more as that's based on the individual) to offer as a white/yellow/green/purple man.
Just like I understand fully that people who have been diagnosed by a medical professional with a mental health condition want to be identified by that. Hell I had someone introduce them self to me today as -- 'Hi my names _____ and I'm Autistic.' She was proud to be Autistic. She didn't want special treatment.
She wanted to be identified as an Autistic and a seat at the table just like me.
Frankly she deserved it and got it. Because that's how I roll.
All people have something to offer, everyone has a different view. All views are VALID.

Because I work in the community, while you've been coaching basketball.
I've been attending my yearly classes which reaffirm the standard I've set in the programs I run/participate in.
FWIW for college I took classes which were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more indepth than the two week classes I've got to attend for work.

I'll say it differently.
You as a black man have a lot to learn about what is wrong with the things you as a black man do.
Just like.
I as a white man have a lot to learn about what is wrong with the things as a white man I do.
I apologize for not using the proper pronoun.
However I wanted to be quick and not type out every fucking color on the planet.
Apparently I should've................................

This is something you have to know though.
I will not apologize for seeing an individual as an individual.
You might be black, but you're the individual known as Damani(sorry if I spelt it wrong).
If I got a group of black people together each and every one of them would be different and not exactly alike. Someone would have a different thought on a the same thing. Not everyone is the same. That's why it's better to identify an individual as such.
Just like if I was put in a group of white people. I would still be the individual known as Brandon. Not all white people would see it the same.

Nobody is perfect everyone makes mistakes.
To act perfect is a perfect example of not being aware enough about yourself.

You may or may not understand the point I'm making and that's okay.
I encourage you to at the very minimum do research on the matter because I've done mine. However I encourage you to attend classes if you don't understand. As it's a very complicated thing.
No that doesn't mean attend a 3 hour workshop and think you know it all. No one does.
But it will help you.

For example. Those diagnosed by a medical professional with a mental health issue used to not want it brought up.
Now you'll see most of the time they want you to know and their identity is built on it. They're proud of it.

You get what you give.
Remember that.

My point had nothing to do with her employer offering her job back after proof came out that the black men were being dubious.
Literally that has nothing to do with being proven guilty like she was before facts came out.
I won't let you gloss over that.
She looked white, she was called a racist by black men because she as the manager was attempting to make known dine and dashers pay for their food.
She was convicted in the court of opinion, she was fired, she was harassed, she didn't want to go outside for fear of it.(even after she was proven not racist.)
Hm, having power over someone that looks white. Now that's something that we all should add into what we look at.(Shit I did it again. Insert color of specific race for the word 'we')

There is no difference between this and having the police called on you because you're bbqing/playing ball in the street.
'White-looking person is being racist! Even though we've stolen food before why can't we get a bite!?'
'Black person is bbqing in the park, do they even know how to use a bbq?'
Both are equally fucked up and will effect either person going forward.

Insert false equivalency here. Insert one in a million there.

At the end of the day a black man checked his own race.

Now I will say what my response should've been to your responses.
Go fuck yourself.

You're one of the few people on this forum who've met me.
You're one of the few people on this forum who I've shared certain racist things about immediate members of my family.
You're one of the even few-er who.. Know. What. I. Do. For. A. Living.
Never should you talk to me like you do certain posters on this forum who attack you for being black.
And being that you did.
I'll say it again.
Go. Fuck. Yourself.

With all this said.
You need to learn how to separate the racists on this forum who attack you daily for being black.
And those whom you know are your allies.
Until you can do that. There is nothing else to be said between us.
Have a nice life dude. Wish you, and your son the best.
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If you expect me to read all this at work....

dviss1 · Jun 5, 2019

H.C. said: ↑

All views are VALID
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No. No they're not.

Racist, bigoted, hateful views are not valid and I won't entertain any notion of them being valid.

MarAzul · Jun 5, 2019

dviss1 said: ↑

You sound very privileged to NOT know.

Police were called on me as a 15 year old UNARMED teenager for NO reason at all, just playing in Creston Park.

They pulled their guns out and made us lay down on the ground.

I could've been killed for no reason at all.

Now, there's an Oregon story for you....

With your privileged ass....
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I see you use the term Police where I use Sheriff. Sounds like you have a Police problem or a City management problem that permits the abuse you claim.
How does another Oregon Statutes law correct your polices abuse problem that occurred when you were 15? Is that about 30 years ago and it is still a problem?
Are you sure the legislature really fixed the problem.

Oh, maybe it was in Israel?

Lanny · Jun 5, 2019

H.C. said: ↑

You get what you give remember that.

Wow, just wow.
Dude you're talking to someone who works with the community and knows that people want to be identified as they are.
Doesn't matter if it's White, Black, Green or People who have been diagnosed by a medical professional with a mental health condition.

I understand fully that Black people are proud to be black, and want to be identified as such.
That doesn't mean I should tell you to go build a fence............................................................................
It means you're a black man and you want to be seen as such. Therefore you're seen as a black man who has just as much(If not more as that's based on the individual) to offer as a white/yellow/green/purple man.
Just like I understand fully that people who have been diagnosed by a medical professional with a mental health condition want to be identified by that. Hell I had someone introduce them self to me today as -- 'Hi my names _____ and I'm Autistic.' She was proud to be Autistic. She didn't want special treatment.
She wanted to be identified as an Autistic and a seat at the table just like me.
Frankly she deserved it and got it. Because that's how I roll.
All people have something to offer, everyone has a different view. All views are VALID.

Because I work in the community, while you've been coaching basketball.
I've been attending my yearly classes which reaffirm the standard I've set in the programs I run/participate in.
FWIW for college I took classes which were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more indepth than the two week classes I've got to attend for work.

I'll say it differently.
You as a black man have a lot to learn about what is wrong with the things you as a black man do.
Just like.
I as a white man have a lot to learn about what is wrong with the things as a white man I do.
I apologize for not using the proper pronoun.
However I wanted to be quick and not type out every fucking color on the planet.
Apparently I should've................................

This is something you have to know though.
I will not apologize for seeing an individual as an individual.
You might be black, but you're the individual known as Damani(sorry if I spelt it wrong).
If I got a group of black people together each and every one of them would be different and not exactly alike. Someone would have a different thought on a the same thing. Not everyone is the same. That's why it's better to identify an individual as such.
Just like if I was put in a group of white people. I would still be the individual known as Brandon. Not all white people would see it the same.

Nobody is perfect everyone makes mistakes.
To act perfect is a perfect example of not being aware enough about yourself.

You may or may not understand the point I'm making and that's okay.
I encourage you to at the very minimum do research on the matter because I've done mine. However I encourage you to attend classes if you don't understand. As it's a very complicated thing.
No that doesn't mean attend a 3 hour workshop and think you know it all. No one does.
But it will help you.

For example. Those diagnosed by a medical professional with a mental health issue used to not want it brought up.
Now you'll see most of the time they want you to know and their identity is built on it. They're proud of it.

You get what you give.
Remember that.

My point had nothing to do with her employer offering her job back after proof came out that the black men were being dubious.
Literally that has nothing to do with being proven guilty like she was before facts came out.
I won't let you gloss over that.
She looked white, she was called a racist by black men because she as the manager was attempting to make known dine and dashers pay for their food.
She was convicted in the court of opinion, she was fired, she was harassed, she didn't want to go outside for fear of it.(even after she was proven not racist.)
Hm, having power over someone that looks white. Now that's something that we all should add into what we look at.(Shit I did it again. Insert color of specific race for the word 'we')

There is no difference between this and having the police called on you because you're bbqing/playing ball in the street.
'White-looking person is being racist! Even though we've stolen food before why can't we get a bite!?'
'Black person is bbqing in the park, do they even know how to use a bbq?'
Both are equally fucked up and will effect either person going forward.

Insert false equivalency here. Insert one in a million there.

At the end of the day a black man checked his own race.

Now I will say what my response should've been to your responses.
Go fuck yourself.

You're one of the few people on this forum who've met me.
You're one of the few people on this forum who I've shared certain racist things about immediate members of my family.
You're one of the even few-er who.. Know. What. I. Do. For. A. Living.
Never should you talk to me like you do certain posters on this forum who attack you for being black.
And being that you did.
I'll say it again.
Go. Fuck. Yourself.

With all this said.
You need to learn how to separate the racists on this forum who attack you daily for being black.
And those whom you know are your allies.
Until you can do that. There is nothing else to be said between us.
Have a nice life dude. Wish you, and your son the best.
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I'm sorry but that looked like a lot of rambling to me.

dviss1 · Jun 5, 2019

dviss1 said: ↑

If you expect me to read all this at work....
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H.C. said: ↑

You get what you give remember that.

Wow, just wow.
Dude you're talking to someone who works with the community and knows that people want to be identified as they are.
Doesn't matter if it's White, Black, Green or People who have been diagnosed by a medical professional with a mental health condition.

I understand fully that Black people are proud to be black, and want to be identified as such.
That doesn't mean I should tell you to go build a fence............................................................................
It means you're a black man and you want to be seen as such. Therefore you're seen as a black man who has just as much(If not more as that's based on the individual) to offer as a white/yellow/green/purple man.
Just like I understand fully that people who have been diagnosed by a medical professional with a mental health condition want to be identified by that. Hell I had someone introduce them self to me today as -- 'Hi my names _____ and I'm Autistic.' She was proud to be Autistic. She didn't want special treatment.
She wanted to be identified as an Autistic and a seat at the table just like me.
Frankly she deserved it and got it. Because that's how I roll.
All people have something to offer, everyone has a different view. All views are VALID.

Because I work in the community, while you've been coaching basketball.
I've been attending my yearly classes which reaffirm the standard I've set in the programs I run/participate in.
FWIW for college I took classes which were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more indepth than the two week classes I've got to attend for work.

I'll say it differently.
You as a black man have a lot to learn about what is wrong with the things you as a black man do.
Just like.
I as a white man have a lot to learn about what is wrong with the things as a white man I do.
I apologize for not using the proper pronoun.
However I wanted to be quick and not type out every fucking color on the planet.
Apparently I should've................................

This is something you have to know though.
I will not apologize for seeing an individual as an individual.
You might be black, but you're the individual known as Damani(sorry if I spelt it wrong).
If I got a group of black people together each and every one of them would be different and not exactly alike. Someone would have a different thought on a the same thing. Not everyone is the same. That's why it's better to identify an individual as such.
Just like if I was put in a group of white people. I would still be the individual known as Brandon. Not all white people would see it the same.

Nobody is perfect everyone makes mistakes.
To act perfect is a perfect example of not being aware enough about yourself.

You may or may not understand the point I'm making and that's okay.
I encourage you to at the very minimum do research on the matter because I've done mine. However I encourage you to attend classes if you don't understand. As it's a very complicated thing.
No that doesn't mean attend a 3 hour workshop and think you know it all. No one does.
But it will help you.

For example. Those diagnosed by a medical professional with a mental health issue used to not want it brought up.
Now you'll see most of the time they want you to know and their identity is built on it. They're proud of it.

You get what you give.
Remember that.

My point had nothing to do with her employer offering her job back after proof came out that the black men were being dubious.
Literally that has nothing to do with being proven guilty like she was before facts came out.
I won't let you gloss over that.
She looked white, she was called a racist by black men because she as the manager was attempting to make known dine and dashers pay for their food.
She was convicted in the court of opinion, she was fired, she was harassed, she didn't want to go outside for fear of it.(even after she was proven not racist.)
Hm, having power over someone that looks white. Now that's something that we all should add into what we look at.(Shit I did it again. Insert color of specific race for the word 'we')

There is no difference between this and having the police called on you because you're bbqing/playing ball in the street.
'White-looking person is being racist! Even though we've stolen food before why can't we get a bite!?'
'Black person is bbqing in the park, do they even know how to use a bbq?'
Both are equally fucked up and will effect either person going forward.

Insert false equivalency here. Insert one in a million there.

At the end of the day a black man checked his own race.

Now I will say what my response should've been to your responses.
Go fuck yourself.

You're one of the few people on this forum who've met me.
You're one of the few people on this forum who I've shared certain racist things about immediate members of my family.
You're one of the even few-er who.. Know. What. I. Do. For. A. Living.
Never should you talk to me like you do certain posters on this forum who attack you for being black.
And being that you did.
I'll say it again.
Go. Fuck. Yourself.

With all this said.
You need to learn how to separate the racists on this forum who attack you daily for being black.
And those whom you know are your allies.
Until you can do that. There is nothing else to be said between us.
Have a nice life dude. Wish you, and your son the best.
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You know bro.. I just took 7 minutes of my time to read this DRIVEL and CAN'T HELP but feel that you're really whitesplaining a bunch of basic shit to me...

It's really off putting and insults my intelligence...

IDGAF if she lost her job. Stop acting like there's an equivalence because you find ONE well publicized case of mistaken racism.

ESPECIALLY one that had a good outcome that we CAN ALL (doesn't seem like you have) learn from.

It SMACKS of not giving a SHIT about when the police were called on me and guns were drawn. Because you don't seem to.

Go fuck myself???

Good day to you sir...

MarAzul · Jun 5, 2019

Lanny said: ↑

a woman called 911 because Bynum looked "suspicious."
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How do you know she did not look suspicious to the caller?

dviss1 · Jun 5, 2019

Lanny said: ↑

I'm sorry but that looked like a lot of rambling to me.
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It was a bunch of rambling BULLSHIT. He's triggered. Something I really DGAF about...

Lanny · Jun 5, 2019

dviss1 said: ↑

No. No they're not.

Racist, bigoted, hateful views are not valid and I won't entertain any notion of them being valid.
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It's as if I said it myself.

dviss1 · Jun 5, 2019

MarAzul said: ↑

How do you know she did not look suspicious to the caller?
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Open your mind... Stop and frisk numbers are below and they tell the complete story.

People were stopped for "looking suspicious".

In 2012, 532,911 NYPD stops were recorded.
473,644 were innocent (89 percent). 421,544 INNOCENT
284,229 were black (55 percent). 253,026 INNOCENT
165,140 were Latino (32 percent). 147,214 INNOCENT
50,366 were white (10 percent). 44,826 INNOCENT

Looks like a big waste of money and police time to have such a racist policy.

MarAzul · Jun 5, 2019

dviss1 said: ↑

the police were called on me and guns were drawn
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This new law prevents your incident how?

dviss1 · Jun 5, 2019

H.C. said: ↑

With all this said.
You need to learn how to separate the racists on this forum who attack you daily for being black.
And those whom you know are your allies.
Until you can do that. There is nothing else to be said between us.
Have a nice life dude. Wish you, and your son the best.
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Fine by me... Save me from having WEIRD ASS interactions in the future... Feel free to put me on IGNORE....

MarAzul · Jun 5, 2019

dviss1 said: ↑

Open your mind... Stop and frisk numbers are below and they tell the complete story.

People were stopped for "looking suspicious".

In 2012, 532,911 NYPD stops were recorded.
473,644 were innocent (89 percent). 421,544 INNOCENT
284,229 were black (55 percent). 253,026 INNOCENT
165,140 were Latino (32 percent). 147,214 INNOCENT
50,366 were white (10 percent). 44,826 INNOCENT

Looks like a big waste of money and police time to have such a racist policy.
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So the new law corrects this by making it illegal to use 911 tow call when someone looks suspicious?

dviss1 · Jun 5, 2019

MarAzul said: ↑

This new law prevents your incident how?
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It does that as well as gives me recourse if it does happen.

There are currently no preventative measures nor any recourse for this.

But they're on their way.

dviss1 · Jun 5, 2019

MarAzul said: ↑

So the new law corrects this by making it illegal to use 911 tow call when someone looks suspicious?
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You need to read and stop asking me silly questions:

dviss1 said: ↑

There doesn't need to be more government to adjudicate this.

I'd be fine with hiring more police supervisors and making it so a supervisor can be dispatched to the scene.

There isn't ANYTHING now. Like I said, it's a good first step.
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bodyman5000 and 1 · Jun 5, 2019

dviss1 said: ↑

Open your mind... Stop and frisk numbers are below and they tell the complete story.

People were stopped for "looking suspicious".

In 2012, 532,911 NYPD stops were recorded.
473,644 were innocent (89 percent). 421,544 INNOCENT
284,229 were black (55 percent). 253,026 INNOCENT
165,140 were Latino (32 percent). 147,214 INNOCENT
50,366 were white (10 percent). 44,826 INNOCENT

Looks like a big waste of money and police time to have such a racist policy.
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You forgot the most important part........Unconstitutional

dviss1 · Jun 5, 2019

bodyman5000 and 1 said: ↑

You forgot the most important part........Unconstitutional
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Exactly. Complete violation of our 4th amendment right.

MarAzul · Jun 5, 2019

dviss1 said: ↑

You need to read and stop asking me silly questions:
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Well from what you posted, I don't see how it will have any affect had it been in place when you were 15 and the cops came, guns drawn.
How it has any affect on the lady with the suspicious view of the lady out canvasing.

Even less affect for the dude in Starbucks in Philly. And no way will it reach to Yale.

MarAzul · Jun 5, 2019

bodyman5000 and 1 said: ↑

You forgot the most important part........Unconstitutional
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I don't think the new law prevents making a 911 call because someone looks suspicious.

bodyman5000 and 1 · Jun 5, 2019

MarAzul said: ↑

I don't think the new law prevents making a 911 call because someone looks suspicious.
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I was talking about stop and frisk.

I tried to find an answer for one simple question. Who is the judge when this goes to court.

Judges are supposed to recuse themselves if they have any conflicts of interest. Well as much as I hate to say it a white person could claim bias if they got a black judge.

This law seems like a bad reaction to a real problem. Especially after all these years of "see something say something"

Middle aged white women are going to go broke because of this.

I've called the cops 3 or 4 times in my life and that was to keep me from taking the law into my own hands.

dviss1 · Jun 5, 2019

MarAzul said: ↑

Well from what you posted, I don't see how it will have any affect had it been in place when you were 15 and the cops came, guns drawn.
How it has any affect on the lady with the suspicious view of the lady out canvasing.

Even less affect for the dude in Starbucks in Philly. And no way will it reach to Yale.
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I just explained it. If you don't get it....

dviss1 said: ↑

It does that as well as gives me recourse if it does happen.
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Had whoever called the police (AGAIN for no reason) would've known I have recourse then that could've prevented the call.

And you're still not listening, reading, or comprehending, one of the three:

It's NOT a silver bullet. It's a good FIRST STEP.

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