Notice Oregon bill cracks down on racially motivated 911 calls

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  1. TorturedBlazerFan

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    I "understand" that, but it wasn't really my question. Maybe I didn't phrase what I was asking very well.
     
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    To answer the first part: When you have racism inflicted on you (constant bombardment on multiple levels every day all day) you have a better grasp of discerning who is exhibiting this behavior.

    I can't even watch porn without seeing racism.

    To the 2nd part about not seeing color... It's offensive and frankly just not true.

    The idea of not seeing skin-color is nice in theory, but in actuality it’s just a lie. Anyone who is able to see can discern and recognize one skin color from the next. To say you don’t see color is a misnomer. How can you possibly fix something that you don’t believe you actually see? If you are conducting training to help individuals move past their racial biases, it’s important to understand that the goal is not to be color-blind. The goal is not actually to see and recognize skin color but to control and regulate your innate impulse to make decisions based on such characteristics. Being able to first recognize this is critical. We all see color. To say one doesn’t is just not accurate. We have to first, recognize that each of us, no matter our color, have preconceived notions and expectations about different racial groups. Recognition and acknowledgment are crucial.

    Another reason why this phrase is counterproductive is that it diminishes the unique differences and experiences racial groups face. Each of us is different and by saying that one of the most obvious and conspicuous characteristics about a person is something you ignore is dismissive and trivializing. Ideally, we would live in a Utopian society where there were rainbows and butterflies and skin color was not a factor in our decision-making, but the unfortunate reality is that it is. Racism has not been eradicated but rather has changed and become more covert and insidious.

    What's the first step to solving a problem? Recognizing it exists.
     
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    In my neighborhood, there never is police patrol. But we do watch for unknown persons driving in the area. It is all private road and all residents and their vehicles are known to the Neighborhood watch. When new people move in there are made know to the watch. People do check when people are known to be out of the area for awhile. It works pretty well, no one calls 911 unless they need an ambulance or assistance with a fire.
     
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    Sigh...

    This is suspicious if someone is coming down your private road that doesn't belong there... It's private...
     
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    I agree, and like I said I'm not blind I recognize you're a Black male, and that my best friend growing up was a Chinese guy. I recognize those things and I'm sure they play a role in my decision making processes to some extent.

    Absolutely realize racism exists, and that I'm not immune to stereotypes.

    When I look at a Person the fact they're a Human is the first thing that comes to mind, you aren't a Dog, or a whatever, you're a person. I should treat you as a human. Then there are characteristics about you, you are Black, you are a Man, you are... etc. That process happens very quickly obviously we have trillions of neurons working at speeds that are almost incomprehensible. I have no problem seeing you as a "Black Man," because, you are one.
     
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    It discourages people to trust their natural instincts if they feel something isn't right. There will be instances where someone will ignore that due to a law such as this and someone will die as a result of the neglect to report something suspicious.

    Its not different from the roving (muslim) migrant rape gangs in Europe. Its happening, but even news agencies can't report on it because it may offend someone or someone will be seen as racist for thinking such bad thoughts!
     
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    I imagine Bandon has a lot of racial profiling issues. Hard to keep track of a dozen or so people, lol.
     
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    Also as we talk this out, I think I'm understanding what you're getting at, sorry for being an idiot lol.
     
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    Like your president would say "WRONG".

    It will make people fucking THINK before they dial 911. As everyone should.
     
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    And people will die as a result.
     
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    This crap about so called roving rape gangs in Europe are overblown. Here's what Der Spiegel had to say about it.
    https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...to-refugee-sex-offense-reports-a-1186734.html
     
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    When they stop.
     
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    Well, in a population of Millions, I suppose anything is possibe. But I say that allowing people to live more out in the open is worth the immensely tiny probability that someone might have a problem because of the new law.
    I suspect that no one will have have a significant problem because of the new law.
     
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    Just like how US Public schools won't suck because they are flooded with the children of illegals that can't speak english?
     
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    People are ALREADY DYING as a result of the police being called!
     
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    I just said that..
     
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    More will die if they aren't.
     
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    There's a better than even chance that no one will die as a result.
     
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