Oregon State Beavers 2025

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Depends if they can pay him, IMO. If they are a big boy program I think he'll stay. If not he'll jump up.

    He can always come back to the Beavs.
     
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    that could be the case. He may be satisfied being a MWC coach at his alma mater

    on the other hand, if the Beavs can't pay him the 6 or 7 or 8M a year he can get at another school and the transfer portal becomes a lot more an off-ramp for the Beavs than an on-ramp, it might be difficult for him to stay
     
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    My guess is that folks that say he will leave for money, is because that is what they would do. Not everyone is driven by money.
     
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    I don’t want to discuss the future seasons for the Beavs. It’s all about this year. I believe we have the best team in the PAC. We’ll see.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Other programs are going to throw big money at Smith after this season. Meanwhile, OSU athletics is broke. I wonder what Smith's buyout looks like.
     
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    That's true

    I guess I'm just assuming most coaches are motivated by ambition and money. They both are connected
     
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    There are certainly lots of motivations for coaching. One is to remain in the game, when you see the end of your playing career approaching. If money was one of those motivations for Smitty...he is making it. Lots of money. Is more always better? There are some that say yes, and there are some that consider other motivations as well.

    I would seriously doubt that Jonathan Smith saw making as much money as possible, as the main motivation for his choice to go into coaching. Personally, I was too small to succeed in sports, and I became a musician. I have had lots of motivations to raise my game as a player. To become rich was never one of them.
     
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    I don't think it will necessarily be that simple though. I just checked what the MWC football head coach salaries were. This was from 2022:

    1. Colorado State's Jay Norvell, $1.6 million
    2. Wyoming's Craig Bohl, $1.6 million
    3. UNLV's Marcus Arroyo, $1.55 million
    4t. Fresno State's Jeff Tedford, $1.5 million
    4t. San Jose State's Brent Brennan, $1.5 million
    6. Boise State's Andy Avalos, $1.475 million
    7. San Diego State's Brady Hoke, $1.1 million
    8. Utah State's Blake Anderson, $1.025 million
    9. Nevada's Ken Wilson, $950,000
    10. New Mexico's Danny Gonzales, $700,000
    11. Hawaii's Timmy Chang, $500,010

    now, these salaries are in line with the MWC media payout of 4-5M/year per school

    Smith, on the other hand, is on a deal that will pay him more than 5M/year. Now, that runs thru 2028 so there would be no rush for Smith to jump ship. At the same time if that's the reality OSU is facing, Smith will know that and he's only 44. And I'd think the differential will be even more glaring for assistant coaches. If OSU is having trouble retaining good assistants at the same time they are recruiting for a MWC level team, and having trouble keeping their good players with the transfer portal dynamics, the Beavs are going to struggle

    Smith may or may not have ultimate loyalty to OSU, but his assistants won't, and the players will be aware of better NIL opportunities elsewhere

    Maybe the Beavs and Cougs will make it into the Big-12 but that seems a real long shot right now
     
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    The wait for the Arizona game is going to be way too long.....
     
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    Hmmm, who should I root for today....

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    Why they're ranked here: They are behind Utah in spite of the head-to-head because of how difficult it would be to defeat them a second time in the Pac-12 title game AND because Utah's résumé could be slightly more impressive to the committee because of the nonconference win against Florida. The Beavers had an unimpressive September, earning convincing wins against overmatched opponents San Jose State, UC Davis and San Diego State before losing in Pullman in their first real test of the season. They rebounded with statement wins against Utah and UCLA, but both of those games were at home. Oregon State is lower on this list because even if it runs the table, it could face a team in the conference championship game that it already defeated (Oregon or Washington), which would give its résumé less of a boost.

    What needs to happen to reach CFP: The Beavers would need to run the table and win the Pac-12, punctuating their regular-season résumé with back-to-back wins against Washington and Oregon. The ideal scenario would be to face USC in the Pac-12 title game, giving the Beavers a shot at another highly-ranked Pac-12 opponent, and one it hasn't faced in the regular season. Hopefully, the strength of its ranked Pac-12 opponents would overcome the weak nonconference schedule.


    https://www.espn.com/college-footba...ms-best-chance-reach-college-football-playoff
     
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    My daughter goes to U of A. We are headed down this weekend to catch the Beavs and Cats play. Should be fun.
     
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    forecast is for a high of 94 in Tuscon today. Get's cooled during the week but climbs back up into the high 80's by Friday. A different world than the Willamette Valley
     
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    We have been tracking the weather. Sounds about perfect next weekend. Hopefully we get a good game too.
     
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    I spent 2 years working in Sierra Vista, which is aa bit less than a mile high and about 75 miles SE of Tuscon near the border. The elevation kept it cooler in the summer. Byy that I mean it rarely got over 100F, but was constantly in the 92-98F range nearly every day for 7 months of the year. One year, there was about 3 inches of snow on the ground Chritmas Day. A week later on New Year's Day, it was sunny and bout 80F
     
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    Seems like it really depends who the other 1 loss CFP teams would be. If it's an SEC champ Alabama then no way Beaves make it over them. If it's a team that didn't win their conference and the PAC finishes strong there might be some sentiment to give the Beavs a shot, especially with it seemingly being their final season in a major conference.

    Running the table except a 3 point loss is a pretty damn good resume.

    Would love for this to continue to be a possibility - probably very unlikely Beavs keep racking up Ws to the end though.
     
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    I'd think ideal scenario for Beavs is UW UO win out (except losses to the Beavs).

    UCLA wins out and Beavs beat them again in title game.

    Problem with Utah or USC winning the south is they have to beat UW and or UO and that would reduce the strength of the Beavs winning against those north powerhouses.

    If UW UO only loss is between each other and then Beaves beat both of them that's a monster resume.
     
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  19. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I don't think it's north v south anymore. If OSU wins out, they'd probably get UW again in the conference championship
     
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    Ohh great even better.
     

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