I would...that's why I asked we know approximately what Oregon is drawing from the Big-10 media pie. It's somewhere in the 35M range, give or take a couple of million; same for Washington. Otther Big-10 teams make nearly twice that. We know what SEC programs make; what Big-12 programs make; what ACC programs make. We even have a pretty good idea what the Mountain West media deal will pay to each school not sure why the Pac-12 deal should be a secret