Oregon State, Oregon agree not to use the term ‘Civil War’ for its sports rivalry games

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    Oregon State and Oregon announced Friday that it will no longer use the term “Civil War” in connection with its sports rivalry games.

    The annual football game between the Ducks and Beavers has been referred to as the Civil War for nearly 90 years, and more recently, games in other sports involving the two schools.

    In a statement released by OSU, president Ed Ray said the universities agreed to drop the name as it has a connection to a war fought to preserve slavery.

    “Changing this name is overdue,” Ray said. “While not intended as reference to the actual Civil War, OSU sports competition should not provide any misconstrued reference to this divisive episode in American history. That we did not act before to change the name was a mistake.”


    Oregon athletic director Rob Mullens said former Duck quarterback Dennis Dixon was at the forefront of requesting a change in the Civil War name.


    “We must all recognize the power of words and symbolism associated with the Civil War,” Mullens said in a statement.


    Oregon State athletic director Scott Barnes said in recent years that numerous athletes, alums and boosters have questioned the term Civil War in relation to the rivalry. Friday’s announcement came after several meetings with OSU’s student athlete advisory committee regarding the term Civil War.


    Barnes said there will be a process between Oregon and Oregon State to consider another moniker for the rivalry. The OSU-Oregon football series began in 1894. Last November marked the 123rd game between the Ducks and Beavers, the fifth-most contested series among FBS schools.


    According to an Oregon State spokesperson, there are no permanent banners or symbols regarding the Civil War game on campus. The annual football game does not have a trophy.


    The 1929 Oregon State College-Oregon game was thought to be the first time the term “Civil War” was used. But according to Oregon State archives, the first time “Civil War” was mentioned in regard to an OSU-Oregon athletic event was its 1932 yearbook.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/2...m-civil-war-for-its-sports-rivalry-games.html
     
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    is this going to far now?

    Does anyone really care that state U's and U' in the same state call the game a civil war?

    I'm all for updating and getting with the times. But do we need to start targeting anything and everything regardless if anyone has even complained?


    I personally like the civil wars in sports.
     
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    What those games are called makes no difference in my interest in them.
     
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    I really don't care one way or the other, but yeah I think it is going too far. It is a stretch to associate this game with the Civil War of 1860. There are so many other civil wars in the history of the world for it to be associated with just that one. Just change it to the Uncivil war
     
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    When you hear the term civil war, do you think of all of the civil wars in history, or does it generally associate with the american civil war?
     
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    I guess it's not civil ized to use any longer. Civil ians must act now or it may provoke the civil defense. I once took my ex wife to civil court!
     
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    Change it to "The War of Northwestern Aggression."

    Oh, wait, that might be problematic too. :thinking emoji:
     
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    OK, let's call it "War to the death!" or "Stalingrad 2" or "Silly Animal challenge". I'm sure you guys can do better.
     
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    If they say American Civil war then I obviously think of ours. But in my lifetime there have been many civil wars. (SE Asia, South America, Europe, Middle East) So no I don't go right to the one 160 years ago unless someone is specific. However, I can easily be persuaded to see the other side of this debate if it offends people.

    Now if people try to tear down the Lincoln Memorial...... then I will have a problem.
     
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    That's non-inclusive to the 9,492 genders and the "+" sign.
     
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    You know, people who lose the game will feel bad. We should not have a winner or anything like that. Just a participation trophy for all involved.

    Instead of playing the game, they can take a knee and then fight social injustices.
     
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    Whenever I hear the word Beaver I never think of a glorified muskrat.
     
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    Why the need to associate it with anything more than an inner state civil war game?

    People want to overreach and connect shit that doesn't really have a tie.


    Do we need to outlaw White Bread?

    If anyone associates a football game with the American Civil war because its called a civil war rivalry, is waaayyy reaching for something to be offended over.
     
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    Women's sports teams at UofO and OSU have civil war games too.
     
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