Politics Oregon Voting

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Yeah the 200 days limit is specified in the measure.
     
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    This sounds like a great opportunity for more locally sourced products from small businesses... So locally sourced products will be better quality and have less inflated prices than the garbage we're being sold by the mega corporations.

    Wouldn't they?
     
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    Virtually every problem they are pointing out is only a problem if companies buy from corporations larger than $25 million per year (or are over $25 million in sales themselves). And every problem they are pointing out for small businesses would also be true of large businesses, but they would ALSO have to the pay the fee on sales over $25 million.

    Do we just not think that Oregon can produce most of this stuff?

    The only thing I'm not seeing is a guarantee of how much of the funds are to be distributed... I don't want it to turn into a slush fund, but rather, go to people who could actually use it. Honestly, I'd prefer it if it were a progressive distribution.
     
  5. Chris Craig

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    If only it were that easy. We are very dependent on large corporations.

    Locally sourced products are not always completely locally sourced. Farmers need seed, fertilizer, equipment, etc etc. Alot of that will be taxed. They will have to pay more for supplies and offset on us. The prices for local product already cost more than corporate products made over seas and such. They will cost more.

    Locally sourced products probably couldn't meet demand even with lowered prices. And you know with greater demand comes a larger price tag. Greater production will cost more for these small business and they will offset it.

    This is a backend sales tax that will hurt consumers. You can bet those corporations will look to get back every cent and more from charging more. All our bills will cost more. Our food will cost more.

    Most small businesses will be hurt by this. Many won't make it.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    You might get some more money at tax time, but you will be paying your ass off all year for goods and services if this passes.
     
  7. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    A bill such as 118 could be passable if it included clear language to protect citizens and small businesses. It doesn't. It's badly written.

    They are holding up money (in the form of a kicker) to our faces like bait. It's like cheese in a mouse trap. The cheese looks amazing, but you won't like what comes with it.
     
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    I think you should vote yes for 118.

    It's not going to pass, at least I don't think it will, but enough voter interest might lead to a better, more fair version for small businesses.
     
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    Yeah, I figure it's going down. I was just kind of surprised by the amount of opposition.
     
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    It is definitely poorly written.
     
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    No thanks
     
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    What is your opposition?
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Smell is subjective.
     
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    I'd like Oregon to remain a blue state
     
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    "rank" choice.
     
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    How would this change that?
     
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    It would allow Republicans to get more votes
     
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    I'm not so sure about that. Wouldn't it only allow Republicans to get more votes if they have policies that appeal to Democrats?
     

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