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Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by MickZagger, Dec 26, 2011.

  1. Rastapopoulos

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    I thought you said he was NOT popular amongst his peers.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Faried is just the latest in a line of excellent power forwards we've passed on that started with Paul Millsap, then DeJuan Blair and finally Faried. I'd love to have any one of those three backing up Aldridge. Blair continues to start on a first place team, has a PER = 16.7, is only 22 years old, and has scored more points and grabbed more rebounds than the three players we drafted instead (Claver, Cunningham and Pendergraph) put together. In other words, we whiffed on Blair three times to take three guys who aren't even on our roster. So yeah, I'd still rather have him than the three stiffs we chose instead.

    BNM
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I don't think Millsap would like being the back-up to Aldridge, but moving Aldridge to center could have moved Millsap to PF. I like that!
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yep, any one of these three would contribute far more than the players we drafed instead.

    I used to think it was just KP who didn't like wide body power forwards, but now I think it's our scouting department that severely undervalues these guys.

    BNM
     
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    Run BJM Heavy lies the crown. Staff Member Global Moderator

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    This guy is unbelievable. I've actually met him briefly and he seems like a nice guy, but he does some arrogant sh*t for someone who is supposed to be the absolute model NBA player. He requested a trade from Golden State because Baron Davis and Monta Ellis were taking his playing time, then was pissed that we sent him to Utah. I don't question the severity of his daughter's health condition but you have to wonder whether he really had to move to L.A.

    And now he refuses to report to Houston, and I can only imagine how he'd react if he went back to LA and Sessions started over him.
     
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    He's going to Miami. He wants more rings than Kobe because he thinks he's awesomer!
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Ugg this Miami game is boring! I thought it would be more exciting!
     
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    Did you see him on Golden State? He was taking shots like he really did think he was better than Kobe lol.
     
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    I have to laugh at Superduper coach Rick Adelman. Minnesota is in a free fall, yet he stubbornly continues to start Wesley Johnson and Martell Webster while Derrick Williams and Michael Beasley both are on the bench. How sad is it that a team with three #2 overall picks is just a half-game ahead of a Portland team that is deliberately trying to tank?
     
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    I said it before and I will say it again. I knew they would slide because they didn't have that 7 game road trip yet. Just wait, they will finish well below us.
     
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    Continuing to stick with Martell Webster and Wesley Johnson is Nate-like stubborn, but even worse.
     
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    maybe they are still trying to develop (2010 #4 pick was it?) wesley johnson, and arent trying to win the nba title this year? if so kudos to adleman for having the foresight to see the big picture, especially after rubio going down
     
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    Exactly
     
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    Why not develop the #2 pick, Derrick Williams? Wesley Johnson has a 7.4 PER and has regressed since last season's whopping 10.4 PER. Not sure how much more he's going to 'develop', but it should be as a bench player at this point. Dude is a bust.

    That still doesn't explain Martell Webster starting, either. But, I get it. Adelman gets excuses from Blazer fans, even when he's obviously lost his touch as a coach.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Do you even watch Minnesota play? If you did, you'd realize your latest anti-Adelman rant makes no logical sense (big surprise there).

    He plays the same position as their best player, one of the best power forwards in the game (a guy you spent all last season trashing, BTW). Kevin Love has a PER = 24.4 and plays 39.6 MPG. You think Adelman should sit Love and give the rookie Derrick Williams (PER = 15.6) more PT? Williams is getting 20.3 MPG. That seems about right for a rookie playing behind the team's best player.

    What does Wesley Johnson have to do with Derrick Williams? They don't play the same position. The question should be why does Johnson start in front of Micheal Beasley, and I'm not sure that really matters. Beasley actually plays more minutes than Johnson. So, it's a rather moot point. And, by coming off the bench, Beasley gives them some extra scoring punch with the second unit. If he was starting, Beasley would just be stealing shots from Love and Pekovic.

    No, you don't get it. Not at all. Martell Webster has started a total of six games all season. He's starting at the two guard becuase Luke Ridenour had to move to the point after Ricky Rubio's season eneding injury. Perhaps you missed that. Rubio tore his ACL and can't play right now. That required Ridenour move from starting SG to starting PG and that's why Webster is now starting at SG. Again, this has nothing to do with Derrick Williams - unless you think Williams should be starting at SG instead of Webster.

    You really don't have a clue, do you? You like to bash Adelman, but have no logical basis for your criticism. Minnesota won 17 games all last season. They were 17-65. That's a .207 winning percentage. This season, they've already won 5 more games. They are 22-24. That's a .478 winning percentage. Not a bad turn around for a coach you claim has "obviously lost his touch as a coach".

    BNM
     
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    Starting Wesley Johnson makes no sense, and Martell is a crappy 2-guard.



    Williams plays almost the same amount of minutes at SF as he does a PF. Plus, his NET PER is better as SF (+2.4) than it is at PF (+1.2).

    Then, look at Wesley Johnson.

    SF net PER (-7.8)

    http://www.82games.com/1112/11MIN7.HTM#bypos

    Wrong. Do some research. Or don't...

    The question is why Johnson should be starting over a wet paper bag. He's THAT bad, yet Adelman keeps riding him, to the detriment of the team.





    Adelman has a legitimate MVP candidate on his roster, and two #2 picks sitting on his bench, and he's a half-game ahead of the Blazers. This after he fizzled out in Houston, missing the playoffs in two straight seasons. Plus, he continues to start a guy in Wesley Johnson who is literally the worst starting SF in the NBA, and probably belongs in the D-League. Yeah, he's a phenomenal phucking coach. Sign him up!

    The next time you're going to ask me if I "have a clue", at least do some basic research and know that Derrick Williams splits his time between SF and PF. It was a very easy thing to know, and is backed up by stats.

    Do you watch the Wolves? That's the question I have for you at this point.
     
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