OT: Big Trade Coming?

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  1. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think they would probably use Jamison in a super sub role.. they already are mediocre at rebounding.. I cant imagine they would bring Porky off the bench. But still.. scary yes.
     
  2. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Put yourself in Joel's shoes (and his agent's and his wife's) opting out makes him a free agent, but what team would offer him a bigger longer term deal when he's unable to run and jump? At best some team might offer him a one or two year deal, partially guaranteed because they wouldn't want to risk a long term salary commitment for a guy who might never return to form. Joel would be far wiser to take his gauranteed money, rehab, play next season and prove that he can play and then go out and get paid.
     
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    Well I sure hope that doesn't happen. The one thing I look at is, they are depending on Butler to play SG at that point, so they better hope that works. They could end up with a great front line and no outside shooting fromt he guards, which would allow teams to double off of them, and effectivly negate the advantage on the front line somewhat. But you can't double them all...and all of them know how to play..
     
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    Yeah, sorry, there's no way Joel is optiong out now. Before his injury I thought it was a pretty big possibility but blowing his patella tendon and dislocating the kneecap at his age makes it pretty obvious he wont opt out this summer. He'll take his 7 million next year, go out and try to show it hasn't affected his ability, and then sign a new contract in 2011 pending the lockout. He will not leave 7 million on the table now.
     
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    Jamison and Butler added to Rondo, Pierce, Sheed, and Garnett?

    How many basketballs do the Celtics think they are allowed on the court at any given time? Sounds like a potential disaster in terms of oncourt chemistry, doesn't it?
     
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    Buzz Killington Great Sea Urchin Cerviche

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    If only to ensure the L*kers don't win the 'ship this year, I'm fine with this.
     
  7. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Butler takes Ray Allen's spot in the offense, and Jamison probably moves Sheed down a peg in the pecking order. Frankly, I think this helps them rotate their bigs and limit their minutes in preparation of a playoff run.

    Besides, chemistry and PT isn't as much of an issue for guys in their thirties who aren't playing for their next contract, but are presumably only focused on going out on top before their careers end.
     
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    At least Memphis got Marc Gasol as part of the Pau deal.


    This is just highway robbery.

    Isn't it weird that the Lakers and Boston tend to be on the good end of so many one sided deals?

    I don't know how they do it.
     
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    Brian Scalabrine = next Marc Gasol.
     
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    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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  11. hasoos

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    It just goes to show, that if you sign somebody to a huge contract, sooner or later, for better or for worse, that contract is worth a hell of a lot on the trading market no matter how well the player played during that time period. Unless you are KP, of course, and just let it expire and get nothing for it....:tsktsk:
     
  12. OddEnormous

    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    I won't be worried until BOS makes a few trades for players who might be Scottie Pippen someday.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Butler is going to take Ray Allen's spot? Allen is basically a 3-point specialist these days. Granted, he's making Steve Blake look like Stever Kerr this year by comparison, but he at least stretches a defense on reputation alone.

    Caron Butler does a lot of things well, but he's no 3-point shooter. Boston would have to completely alter their offense to accomodate what Butler does best. If I was Ainge, I'd also be concerned about Butler's long-term value. He hasn't played more than 67 games in a season since 2005-06, and his PER and other statistics are considerably lower this season than in other years. Is that a function of Butler being used incorrectly? Is it the result of Butler's body starting to break down as an accumulation of his recent injury problems? Who knows, but for a guy turning 30 next month who has a PER in the 13s, would Boston be willing to pay him $10.5 million next year when they can let Allen expire this year?

    It certainly would be a blockbuster trade, but I'm not positive that it helps the Celtics very much, unless getting Jamison to come off of the bench is the real reason for the trade.
     
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    I agree with you on Butler and the 3 point shooting. But I think the injuries came from having to carry a team when everybody else was out. Remember Arenas and Jamison both got injured, and Butler ended up trying to carry the team for most of a season, and his body broke down. In a talented team in Boston, I don't see him having to do that.
     
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    I like Butler's game. I just worry that having to carry that terrible team has taken the spring from his step. I believe he doesn't have a good enough outside game to mask any loss in athleticism. The questions Ainge is probably asking himself are about Butler. Jamison would be awesome for them coming off of the bench, though, and his contract would fill Allen's next year.
     
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    Damn! I might be mistaken, chemistry aside, I think they would win it all. That is a 5 All-Star starting line-up! They would light this league up.
     
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    There's still only one ball. All five would demand it. That kind of lineup has a Whitsitt feel to it, or the L*kers the year they acquired Malone and Payton.
     
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    Assuming there was anything great to be had last season for just an expiring contract. Cleveland had an even better expiring contract and got nothing for it.

    And Pritchard didn't "let it expire and get nothing for it." He let it expire and got Andre Miller for it. Miller's not a star, but he's been extremely valuable for Portland and probably at least as valuable, if not moreso, than whomever Pritchard could have gotten for RLEC. (For example, I'd much rather have Miller than Jefferson. I'd probably rather have Miller than Carter, for this team.)
     
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    great we play boston friday...next week

    also thats what good gms do.... rip off other teams. its all part of the sale. selling the gm on the trade. thats why posters make me sick when they defend kpee. good gms get things done. kpee is that rare middle man. wont make a bad trade but wont make a good one.
     

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