OT: Hedo Sucks at Eurobasket - Raptors Fans Regretting Their New $53 Million Man

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  1. BenDavis503

    BenDavis503 Banned User BANNED

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    It's cute that you think your team is going to do well next season! How adorable.
     
  2. BasX

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  3. Master Shake

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    Fuck, sorry for the megafail. Feel free to point and laugh.

    And I regret nothing. I have faith in my team. Like all of you have faith in Oden, when you could of taken a very healthy Durant who is averaging 25 per game. So, while the price is steep, I feel he can deliver and when the season starts, everyone will see.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    You'd sign a player to that much money and comit the team to future cap hell because of one lucky shot? You are a funny guy.
     
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    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    How many of those guys were in Toronto last year? How many wins did Toronto have?
     
  6. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    In addition to not knowing what country Hedo is from, you also know nothing about his country's national team. In addition to Hedo, they also have Ersan Ilyasova of the Milwaukee Bucks and Omer Asik, drafted by the Blazers with the 6th pick in the 2008 NBA draft and traded to the Bulls for two future 2nd round picks. Both of these guys outscored, and outrebounded Hedo in the Eurobasket tournament. In fact, Hedo was 4th on his team in both scoring and rebounding and shot the ball like crap (0.376 FG% and 0.293 3FG%).

    And, he didn't exactly do this against NBA caliber competition. 10.5 PPG, 4.5 RPG, 2.8 APG on 37% shooting against inferior competition is pretty underwhelming for a 53 million dollar man.

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  7. Master Shake

    Master Shake young phoenix

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    Dawg, who gives a fuck about last year. We had a losing year, so what? You can't deny the fact that Hedo brings something to the Raptors and he does give us a boost. DaRozen is 19 and is gonna be a spectacular player. We have a solid team, maybe not an NBA championship caliber one, (fingers crossed) but we're good and we can win any night.

    I say, we do something Blazer fans have never done before in the history of s2...wait. When the season is 20-25 games in, than we'll see what Hedo has done for us.
     
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    For clarification purposes, did you feel that he would be a good fit for Portland?
     
  9. Master Shake

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    I made a mistake, I haven't really been falling Eurobasket and I had a brainfart aswell.

    Like I've said, all you guys are looking at, is how much he is making. He can play, players have bad games, bad stretches. Shit, it's Eurobasket, I don't care if he didn't even play. All I care about is how he preforms in a Raps uniform and I'll get to see that in November. So till than, I'll hold my criticism of how much we spent for him based on how he plays.
     
  10. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Actually, I agree we should wait. But a lot longer than 20 - 25 games. I'm sure Hedo will be able to be a valuable contributor for at least that long. Where I'd be concerned is 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 years from now when Bosh has left, the Raps are in the lottery and Hedo is sucking up $10 - $11 - $12 milliuon in cap space. That's when I'd seriously question this signing - not 20 - 25 games into the first season of his 5 year $53 million deal. A great honeymoon doesn't guarantee a great marriage.

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    Fair enough. My caveat, is that the first year (playing alongside Bosh) could be a success...and the deal could still come back to bite Toronto in the butt if Bosh doesn't re-sign. Without Bosh, Hedo becomes the flashy wheel-covers on a car with no engine!

    Edit: oops, BNM beat me to it!
     
  12. Master Shake

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    I agree, but I don't think Bosh will leave any time soon. I'm hoping the team can do well enough where he will want to stay. But hey, who knows. So, as you've said, 2-3 years on to the contract and we'll see if BC is a genius or if he owes me 3 years of my life back ahah.
     
  13. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I thought he'd be a better signing for Portland than for Toronto. Why?

    Because the young 54-win Blazers are closer to being title contenders than the 33-win Raptors.

    Because the Blazers aren't likely to lose their best player next summer and then end up in the lottery for the last 4 years of Hedo's 5-year contract.

    Because Hedo did a great job running the side pick-and-roll with Dwight Howard in Orlando and could have done similar with Oden in Portland. Toronto's center is not a low post threat and would rather camp out at the 3-point line than down on the blocks. So, rather than give Toronto a solid inside-outside game, the Hedo-Bargnani combo is redundant.

    So, yes, he would have been a better fit in Portland than Toronto, and even then I thought five years was too much. You'd basically be grossly overpaying him in the last 2 years of his contract for the production you'd hope he provides during the first 3.

    BNM
     
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    I will be shocked if Bosh leaves next offseason no matter how many games the Raps win this coming year. Toronto can offer him the most money, and especially with the declining cap it could be a significant difference. Players do enjoy being on better teams and winning, but they mostly enjoy big fat paychecks. When your talking about an extra 6th year at $20+ million along with a couple additional million each year for the first 5 years, I can't see him turning that down.
     
  15. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I fully expect Toronto to be a playoff team this year. Hedo may not be "THE answer" (trademark) but he certainly gives them a creative playmaker from the wing who can take it inside and out, and can find guys off of the side pick-and-roll, and for the next couple of years he'll probably be just what they're looking for and will probably make Bargnani look like the next Rashard Lewis (for better or worse).

    Having said all that, I don't envy the Raps when he hits 33+ and still has 3 years left on his deal and probably doesn't have the athleticism to warrant his paycheck.

    Whatever; he's Toronto's problem, not the Blazers problem ... not my problem and probably shouldn't be your problem (BasX and Megatron excluded of course).
     
  16. BLAZINGGIANTS

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    Yes. I give a fuck about last year. You listed 3 of 4 guys you had last year, plus a rookie, who just finished his freshman year. And you think that list will impress me? Please, even in a weak East, you ain't shit. You may very well make the playoffs, but you're not playing more than 89 games next season.

    Something we ain't seen in the history of s2? This is a relatively new forum, that could be a lot of things? 82-0? No. 0-82? Not likely either. Dunno what else that means. Regardless, I'm glad you got Turk. Didn't want him here, that's honest-to-God.
     
  17. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Durant's 25 points a game is about what Oklahoma has averaged in win totals with him on the roster.
     
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    Lol, I'll hold you to those 89 games. Cause as soon as we hit 90, get ready.
     
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    Good for you. I guess I should have clarified the number doesn't include preseason. The East is weak, I expect Toronto to make the playoffs, but that's where it ends. First round and out.
     
  20. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    They have enough offensive talent to make the play-offs in the East, but teams that can't rebound and don't play defense don't do well in the post season. Their roster is built to fail in the post season.

    But hey, they will be a high scoring team in the regular season and win 10 or 12 more games than they did last season. So, I guess that's something to get excited about if you're a Raptors fan.

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