that your 16% figure is pretty silly Would Iguadala be the perfect fit offensively between Nic and Andre? Of course not, but it sure looks a hell of a lot better then the club's options right now. I happen to think they'd have a pretty exciting team defensively with only Miller as a weakness in the starting lineup... throw in Johnson and they'd really be able to apply the screws to teams STOMP
Which is why I said "(or thereabouts)" to indicate it was only a rough estimate. Don't like 16%, pick a number. I don't care if it's 25%, 50%, or anything else less than 100%. Where does Iggy play when Roy is healthy? Would he be happy coming off the bench during the prime of his career? Do you start him as an undersized 3 and send Batum to the bench? Whether you like the 16% estimate or not, you failed to answer those questions. Would Iggy be a good fit if we didn't have Roy? I believe he would be. With Roy, not so much. BNM
I'd put it at 75-80%. Dude fits well with just about anyone on D, which again is roughly 50% of the game... I think his slashing would fit great beside Miller as a wing on the basketball court getting 30+ minutes a game Would he be happy making tens of millions of dollars playing for a winner (and possible contender) during the prime of his career? Neither of us know the guy to answer our questions with any certainty, but I'd guess he'd say it depends to yours and an emphatic yes please to mine Dude is the same size as Carmelo and has been starting at the 3 for the 6ers for years. I'd love for the club to be so loaded that they'd have Roy Batum and Andre as their wing rotation... that would be awesome! I don't think he'd have much problem fitting with Brandon if BR is able to come back to his full ability. Sure AI wouldn't spread the court as well as some, but dude is a stud slasher and defender. If Roy is significantly less of a player then he's been then I wouldn't be that concerned about finding guys who are perceived to have the perfect fit with him STOMP
So, when Roy, Batum and Iggy are all healthy, where does that 30 MPG come from? I guess that means Wesley Matthews' minutes drop to zero. Batum doesn't get enough minutes as is and I'm not sure how well Batum, or Iggy would do coming off the bench. They've bot hbee starters their entire careers, as has Roy. And no he's not the same size as Carmelo. According to their predraft measurements, he's 3/4" shorter, 17 lbs. lighter with a 1" less wing span. He's actually closer in size to Brandon Roy than Carmelo Anthony, and Roy is (was) more athletic and still had trouble matching up with starting 3s during Nate's brief wacky 3-guard experiment last season. Iguodala is undersized for a startiing NBA small forward and has not been starting at 3 for the 76ers for the past few years for this very reason. Thaddeus Young was their starting SF for the previous two seasons and Nocioni has been starting at the 3 this season. The only times Iggy has started at the 3 in the last few seasons is when Elton Brand was injured and they were forced to go small with Young starting as an undersized 4 and Iguodala starting as an undersized 3.
Iggy and Roy are both above average distributors for wings, but their games couldn't be any more different; Iguodala is a guy who loves to run on the break and is a pretty damn good finisher, Roy is much more of an isolation and screen and roll player in the half-court (and a better shooter).
yeah, Batum Roy and AI split the 96 wing minutes in my hypothetical and probably dip into the PG minutes as well. Oh well on Wesley as I'm for having the better players play Is there some reason you left off standing reach? I'd guess it's because Carmelo and Andre's are exactly the same... whats my prize? I'm sure you're aware that players don't make many plays with the top of their heads and that weight on a day more then half a decade ago means jack today especially with guys this big... jeez I'm recalling Wayne Cooper claim he'd lose nearly 10 pounds of water weight during each game. Brandon Roy trails Iguadala by 3" in Wingspan and 4.5" in Standing Reach... thats a pretty huge difference and hardly the sliver that separated AI and CM in those pre-draft numbers 6 & 7 years ago. Even so, Roy logged 35% of his minutes at SF in 2008-9 and scratched out a respectable 27.1 PER while last year he slumped to just a 24.8 PER while at SF. Too bad he is so undersized or he might have been effective there. STOMP
Don't argue about size with STOMP, BNM I raised my eyebrow too at him saying Iguodala and Melo are the same size, but then I checked their measurements (Iggy is a rare exception in that he's officially listed shorter than his actual height in shoes) and decided to leave it at that upon seeing that there is only half an inch difference barefoot and the same standing reach. Bottom line, I don't think Iguodala is undersized as a SF. 6'7" is legit size for the position and the guy is built like a tank - hell, he played PF this summer in the Worlds. I would love to get him, although that would make Matthews quite redundant and no way Philly takes on that contract.
Yep, in the end, I don't see any way to get him without giving up too much. We'd likely have to give them two of our expiring contracts and one or two cheap, young players. That's two of Joel, Oden and Miller. Plus, Rudy and one other cheap young player. Of course, they will ask for Batum, and that will be a deal breaker. They'll probably also want to dump Brand (or Louis Williams), and including one of Roy or Aldridge would be needed to make that work. Even if Iggy would be a great fit (I don't think he would be next to Roy), we'd have to give up too much to get him. Hell, as decimated as our front line has been by injuries, if Joel can come back and play reasonably effectively, I think having his rebounding and interior defense is more important to this team than any upgrade Andre Iguodala would provide over Wesley Matthews as our back-up SG/SF. BNM
If they'd trade Iguodala in return for dumping Elton Brand (JPEC and Andre Miller would have to go to Philadelphia to give them contracts that will drop off their salary structure at the end of the season) and maybe some cash/draft pick considerations, I'd be very interested. From what I've read, they've considered it because they're desperate to dump Brand. Outside of packaging him with Iguodala and not expecting equal value for Iggy back, there's no way they can get rid of Brand. But I wouldn't trade any of Roy, Oden, Batum or Aldridge for him and Portland can't put together a value-for-value deal for Iguodala without those players being on the table. So, if Iguodala is available as part of a Brand salary dump, I'd love to add him. I think an Roy/Iguodala/Batum starting perimeter could actually work, because both Roy and Iguodala have very high Assist Rates and Batum is a smart decision-maker (though he doesn't generate very many assists). If it takes a value-for-value trade, I don't see Portland as a good match.
