OT: LaMelo Ball , is he the real deal?

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  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Ya his court vision might have been what he was talking about.
     
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    With his stats off the bench and total lack of defense, he's going to be the best sixth man of his generation!
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Dude's 19
     
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    It's a joke, bro. R-E-L-A-X, as Aaron Rodgers would say.
     
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    He looks good. In a Ben Simmons kind of way. Sag off him and beg him to shoot. I know he’s much better from deep then Simmons. But I don’t see the dude making you pay from playing off him consistently
     
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    He won’t. You either can shoot or you can’t right? Interesting you said in a Ben Simmons kinda way. You mean like a future all star. In spite of the fact that Simmons can’t shoot, he’s one of the best players in the league. I’ve said it before, when somebody who CAN’T shoot can get a triple double, that’s amazing to me.
     
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    Has a bench player ever won Rookie of the year?
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    I guess I’m saying, that there are guys in this league who can shoot their asses off and can only dream of getting a triple double.
     
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    A big part of that is that Simmons can defend positions 1-5 and is a DPoY-caliber player. If Simmons didn't have that kind of all-world defensive ability, he wouldn't be among the best players in the league.

    I get that Ball is 19, but I find it unlikely that he'll ever reach "world destroyer" level on defense, considering where he's starting on that end. So, if Ball is ever going to reach Simmons-level, he's going to have to become at least a competent defender and a solid shooter.
     
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    Did Simmons have a defensive reputation in college? Seems like he was considered a [lazy] offensive player, and the defense came later. I didn't watch much of him, though.
     
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    I watch all his college games and it just came ssh easy to him. He dominated and it looked like he was just coasting out there.
     
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    Ball has all the hype but I think Haliburton is a better player.
     
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    Haliburtin has looked damn good too.
     
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    You're correct that he was perceived to coast on that end prior to the NBA, but it seemed like most scouts (who's opinions were publicly available) felt that he showed a lot of defensive ability the times he locked in and cruised because he didn't feel challenged.

    I was actually skeptical of that...I'm not convinced by "he's just bored, he can do way better if he tries," but it seems to have worked out that way.
     
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    That ain’t bad company for this youngin’
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    The fact that Jason Kidd (not a great shooter out of college), made 7 threes, in an era where teams shot a total of 15 threes a game is amazing!

    He only averaged 1.4 made 3's on 4.1 attempts over his entire career.
     
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    Man that Dallas team was a mess, but the 3 Js sure were fun to watch!
     
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    Unless something bizarre happens, he is a ROTY lock. More importantly the Hornets are winning games so his numbers contribute to wins.
     
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