OT: New Look Knicks Dominating Heat

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  1. KingSpeed

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    Randolph playing well. Go Zach!
     
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    I'm splitting between that game and Jarrett Jack on Indiana right now. League Pass Broadband is pretty sweet. I'm also watching OKC get blown out. :grin:
     
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    Durant is a bust.
     
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    The real star from last year's draft is Yi. He kicked ass tonight. I think the Nets will surprise some people.
     
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    Close game between Sacto and Minny... not that anybody cares.
     
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    I predicted before the season that the Knicks would win more games then the Nets. I guess we'll find out in a few months.
     
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    Knicks look good. A lot of their players are going to thrive under D'Antoni's system. Heck, I think even Randolph can be very productive player under that system.
     
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    Zach is a productive player under any system.

    The Knicks couldn't really put away the Heat, though, like they should have... and the Heat are pretty darn bad.

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    Zach is a productive fantasy player under any system. Whether that translates to victories? Well, the past tells us 'no' so far in his career.
     
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    Haha.

    Zach gives up 23/10 to Udonis Haslem! :NOTMARIS:
     
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    Did you watch the game? Lee was guarding Haslem most of the time I was watching.

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    Really? The last time we won playoff games was because Zach had been put into the starting lineup.
     
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    Zach can't even guard Udonis Haslem. :dunno:
     
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    First of all, you're making a distinction without a difference. Zach has been a productive player. He scores and he rebounds. He produces. Fantasy production and real-life production have a tremendous amount of overlap.

    Secondly, an individual's production "translating to victories" is almost meaningless.

    For whatever reason you have a chip on your shoulder about Zach and are willing to overlook his positives just because of his negatives. I prefer to accept both.

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    Um, they lost that series to Dallas, and Zach as the #1 option has been a failure in two cities so far.
     
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    What are you talking about?

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    Are you being dense on purpose?

    They won playoff games because of Zach's play against Dallas. No one claimed that they won the series.

    Sheesh.

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    We didn't start Zach til Game 4. We were 3-1 with Zach.
     
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    Totally not true. I've said numerous times that Zach would be an excellent scoring/rebounding option off the bench for a good team, or a good (yet defensively deficient) option as a starter for a bad team. He just can't carry the weight that his contract demands him to carry on a winning team. If that's a "chip on my shoulder", fine, but history backs me up on my long-time "chip on my shoulder".

    They gave up 115 points to Miami and barely won the game.
     
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    Great. Then let's agree, since we are giving Zach credit as a surprise in the Dallas series, that they were one of the worst teams in the league after he was paid to be the primary option and franchise player.

    Agree?
     
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