OT: Rose Done for the Year

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  1. blue9

    blue9 Well-Known Member

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    Given his injury history, no. That's why I think Denny's asking price of CJ/Robinson/Leonard is too high. CJ/Freeland/Leonard and maybe rights to swap picks, or 2nd rounders and cash.
     
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    I’d for sure trade CJ and Meyers for Noah. I’d try to see if there is a way we can keep TRob, as I don’t think Chicago would value him very highly in a trade and I’m very intrigued by his potential. Maybe give them a protected first round draft pick, I think 2017 is the earliest.

    I’m excited to see CJ on the team but another poster said it well, he’s an unused scratchoff ticket. He is the main piece going to Chicago and the main reason they do the trade. Him being injured actually doesn’t matter much to them, they’d want to tank now anyways. His injury is a broken bone and not a joint injury.

    I seriously think Noah could make us a contending team in the west so ultimately I pull the trigger on any of those deals. A combo of him with Aldridge would be amazing. I think Lopez could play alongside Noah too. GO GET IT DONE NEIL!
     
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    Draco Well-Known Member

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    If I'm Chicago I trade Deng for Danny Granger and get a couple picks from Indy. Helps the team rebuild and gives a good fuck you to the Heat.
     
  4. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I don't see where Deng fits in. As a super sub?
     
  5. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    Trade coming soon.
     
  8. BLAZINGGIANTS

    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    Hold onto your shorts!
     
  9. Sedatedfork

    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    I have a much different recollection. I am not sure which of us is right. O'Neal was stuck behind Grant and Sheed, so his stats may not have jumped out, but I remember thinking that O'Neal was about to bust out if he was given the opportunity. He talked about definitely being an all-star in a year or two that season or the season before, although many kind of rolled their eyes (myself included). But that last year, you could see that he was finally ready to play some minutes, but there were too many players ahead of him on the roster. His per 36 #'s were not all that much different from the last year in Portland to his first year in Indiana. The difference was his minutes tripled. Then he improved more as he was in his prime, which is not altogether surprising. I guess I would say the difference to me is that CJ has not played at all in the NBA. I don't know if he is ready to explode, but he certainly isn't a few years away from his prime. Freeland doesn't seem to me to be the same caliber of player that O'Neal was when he was traded. And if it was Leonard instead of Freeland, he is even farther away from being a rotation player right now. T Rob, I'm just not sure about. I am glad he is on the team, but you have to give up something to get something. I guess where I see a difference is to me the Blazers team with Jermaine had so many players that they were forced to stash some gems on the bench that didn't get the time to develop. There is a spot in this current rotation if you can earn it. T Rob, Freeland, and Leonard are battling each other, but if one was truly a superstar they would be eclipsing the other. With O'Neal, he was truly the 4th cog at the 4/5 spot with Sheed, Arvydas and Brian Grant preventing him from developing or getting minutes. Also, it's kind of hard to showcase someone to get equal trade value if there are too many talented players ahead of them. Now if they make this kind of deal, maybe CJ will be amazing and maybe T Rob and Freeland will be future starters. Leonard is a few years away from being able to be a rotation player. I just don't see it as comparable situations, because CJ hasn't played one minute in the NBA and T Rob and Freeland are getting opportunities, but they aren't wowing us. Leonard seems to be even further away from being a rotation player. But, maybe I am nitpicking because I have nothing better to do. :)
     
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    I have no clue. Been doing that to me too. Pisses me off!

    Anyway it's Golden State, Portland and Chicago.

    Pieces going for Chicago is Boozer and Noah.

    Portland gets Noah and Golden State gets Boozer.
     
  11. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I've traded e-mails with a bunch of buddies of mine from Chicago today about this. Most have said something to the effect of, "You're a Blazer fan. When it comes to knee injuries, you know how bummed I am."

    By all accounts, he's a good guy. This sucks.
     
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  12. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    I agree. This is really unfortunate for the game of basketball. It is also a pretty big blow to my Ripcitytwo fantasy team. I felt a bit iffy drafting him early, but he honestly looked amazing in preseason games. I hope he can come back and not become the next Brandon Roy.......
     
  13. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    I hope Rose can come back to form, but if he can't . . . it's one thing to lose your all star player or to lose the #1 pick to a knee injury . . . but to lose a young PG who is coming off being the youngest MVP of the league . . . well I can feel Bull's fans pain.
     
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    Bulls fans are losing a guy who was all three of those things.
     
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    But only one guy... that we lost two to me feels worse, but only just. My heart goes out to Bulls fans.
     
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    Yeah it does suck. Our problems make me think of Houston with Yao and McGrady, that's probably more hearbreaking than our duo. Both proved to be elite players in the NBA. Just shows how often superstars careers end in their late 20's. Each year is precious. I think Wade will join that club in a year or two.

    The elite stars in the league change more often than we expect.
     
  17. BigGameDamian

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    Noah and Aldridge would be the best front court in the NBA. It would make the Blazers serious contenders for years to come and your stressing out about dealing CJ?
     
  18. BrianFromWA

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    Yes, because CJ can be on our team for the next 9 years if we want. Noah/Aldridge could go to LAL with K*be in two years if they want.

    EDIT: Noah's goes to 2015-16, but the point applies.
     
  19. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    For once, I agree with BGD. If this deal were actually on the table, I have no doubt that Neil tries to negotiate it down a bit, but if push comes to shove and it's CJ/Truck/MyLe for Noah or no deal, I think he pulls the trigger.
     
  20. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    No.

    As long as LeBron James is playing with any player who has a pulse (Chris Bosh qualifies), he's the best front court in the NBA.
     

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