He should take a beat down from his thug mom? It's not like he called K-Mart a fucking ****** who he'd like to muder him and his family and piss all over their graves, or kidnapped him after the game and dipped him into a pool of pig shit. That might call for a personal apology. But ladies, cut back on all the drama...he called him a "thug".
When I was watching NBA on TNT last night Barkley said he had talked to Cuban, and that Cuban had actually tried to phone them to apologize, but nobody picked up. He tried calling Kmart directly, tried calling his agent to get phone numbers, all multiple times. He also said he did not go up to her to apologize directly because he was concerned it would inflame the situation because Kmart is a very emotional guy who might just go ballistic for him even walking up to his mom now. Now that being said, it just goes to show how much the people on this board really know about what is going on, and how much it can be overblown.
huh? While coach/GM at Dallas (who'd been wallowing sub 500 forever prior to him) didn't he trade Tractor Traylor for Dirk and Pat Garrity for Steve Nash? They didn't win a championship, but taking a team from pathetic to regular contender doesn't seem like fucking up a situation to me. Nash eventually left for bigger money in Phoenix but the Mavs have remained a playoff club, even post DN. The W's were also pathetic when he arrived for his 2nd stint with them going 12 years without a playoff appearance... which was also a Nelson coached team. Without a decent frontcourt, they made an unlikely playoff run in 2007 but have been targeting young Bigs since. While they have taken a step back of late (especially last year when they were ravaged by injury) I mostly like the personnel moves they've made especially Anthony Randolph who flashed considerable promise despite being the youngest player in the league. If they fare better with their collective health next season, I could easily see their young roster making the playoffs again. I'm not a huge Nellie guy or anything, but dude is a lock for the HOF as a coach. He's never won it all, but many times he's managed to win with lessor players/talent. STOMP
Kenyon does this with a huge camera right in his face while Cuban is on the other end of the court and probably out of earshot. Later he says that he doesn't conduct his business through the media like Cuban and is more of a face to face kind of guy. I can't say I'm much of a fan of KM's game or how he conducts himself. As for apologizing in his blog, this feud is in public and that is a way to address the public. Offering a public apology to KM's mother there does not mean that he hasn't spoken to her privately as well. STOMP
Dude is a lock to HOF - I also do not disagree with your assessment of him doing great stuff for bad teams - but he always goes on after that and screws it up. This is just a reasonable assessment of him - he did manage to get into fights with Cuban when he was there, he did manage to throw Mullin that built the team that he was so successful with in GSW under the bus. Nellie is a less successful version of Larry Brown - he does great for a short time and then finds a way to fuck it up. Simple as that.
Absolutely, but in a much shorter window. Nelson's teams always follow the same pattern. Overachieve the first year and everyone sings his praises. Next year they fall back but are still pretty good and the decline can be blamed on an injury or something. Next year they stink. Next year the team stops listening to him.
I'm not sure how he threw Mullin under the bus. Popular sentiment here by the Bay is that W's team president Robert Rowell has done this over consistent clashes in the club's direction/moves. again, I wouldn't characterize the situation he left the Mavs in as fucked up, nor would I say that about the W's current situation. The situation when he left the W's in the first time was a complete mess, but that was more on the Warrior's idiot owner Chris Cohan then Nelson who was the public fall guy. It was Cohan who lowballed Chris Weber after he achieved an out in his contract following his rookie year, daring him to take a series of minimum contracts with another club. The Richmond for rookie Billy Owens trade was on GM Nelson, but at the time I thought it was a reasonable roll of the dice. Mullin was fading physically and Warriors needed another forward. They had too many guards and the highly touted Owens consistent injuries couldn't have been predicted. We'll just have to see how the W's fare next year to see if your short time model fits. Given health, I think they'll be pretty decent. STOMP
Kenyon Martin is a thug and is a douchebag. The truth hurts. At least Cuban didn't bring up the time where Martin made fun of Alonzo Mourning's kidney disease. Martin's mommy needs to calm down.
I would change this, if I may, to this: Why does Cuban have to apologize for accurately describing Kenyon Martin('s behavior) to (the woman who raised him)?
I thought Cuban called Martin a "punk", which describes him as a person and transcends his behavior alone. I happen to agree with Cuban, and Martin's actions before, during, and after this episode affirm my view of him being a punk. What was Martin's mother doing on the floor? That I don't understand, unless she was trying to drag her punk son off of the floor as he was taunting the Dallas players and (apparently) staff.
Because it was rude, inappropriate and cowardly. He doesn't have to apologize, but he should. His beef was with Martin, not his mother. If you have a problem with a co-worker, do you confront them directly, or do you shout insults at their mother? Two wrongs don't make a right. Both parties are acting childish. Cuban should have never insulted Martin's mother, and Martin's response has been no better (perhaps he should have shouted at Cuban's mom. "You're son is a pussy"). BNM
Now you're just making things up, which does not help your "argument". Cuban insulted Martin's mother who was in the stands near the tunnel that leads to the Mavs locker room. She was not on the court, and she was not "trying to drag her punk son off of the floor as he was taunting the Dallas players". Feel free to share your opinions about Martin and his character, but please try to stick to the facts and not fabricate things out of thin air. It just confuses the issue. BNM
I find it a bit difficult to believe that Cuban picked Punk Mama out of the crowd, and singled her out with an insult to her son. I wonder what she said to him first?
He didn't insult Martin's mother. He insulted Martin to his mother. Now Kenyon is acting like a baby about it. Perhaps his mother should give him a blankie and a binkie.
I don't have an argument, other than that Martin has always been a punk. I'd say calling some one a "##$#$ fat pig" to their face is a worse offense than correctly calling someone a punk to their mother, but then again, I don't have an irrational bias against Mark Cuban, who by the way did apologize, regardless of forum.
I'm not defending Martin or his actions before, during or after this whole "incident". As I have said, two wrongs don't make a right. Regardless of Martin's behaviour, it doesn't make Cuban shouting an insult at Martin's mother appropriate or acceptable. My so-called bias against Cuban is not irrational. I find a grown man yelling an insult at another grown man's mother to be unacceptable, childish and cowardly. If Mark Cuban has an issue with Kenyon Martin, he should take it up with Kenyon Martin - not his mother. BNM
He did it and he felt bad enough about it to apologize in a public forum. Martin, meanwhile, continues to play the victim and isn't taking any responsibility for his own actions other than to pour gasoline on the fire. He needs to focus on the Lakers, not the eccentric owner of an NBA team. He's a punk.
