OT: Zion

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  1. Natebishop3

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    Draymond is such a weird comparison because he's a defensive specialist who just happened to get drafted by the perfect team for him. I don't think he makes a single All-Star team if he is on another team. Certainly not a guy that would be mentioned as a possible number one pick. Draymond went in the second round.
     
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    You are right, I don't think Zion and Green are similar players just trying to say the Tweener issue isnt nearly the issue it used to be. Before teams tried to fit a player into a specific position, but now positions are going out the window.

    Zion is a freak athlete and will find a way to be on the court and perform at a high level.
     
  3. Natebishop3

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    I guess I'm skeptical. He's going to have to either become a really damn good shooter or he's going to have to show that he can defend fast players.
     
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    I do need to watch him more to check out his game beyond the freak athletic plays/dunks.
     
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    I could totally be wrong, but the NBA is trending more and more towards long, athletic players that can shoot. That's the name of the game now. That's why Aminu is still valuable and why he'll probably get a decent payday.
     
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    If Zion was a border line talent I would have more concern, but he appears to have a high NBA level of athleticism already.
     
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    Why don't you start one master thread that is just for you to add to whenever you come up with these great takes.Instead of clogging up the main page with a ton of threads like the Jinx does. Doesn't mean you can't still voice your well thought out takes, it justmakes this site easier to navigate.
     
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    I guess???
     
  9. Natebishop3

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    The hardest part is trying to look at a kid and see if his talent will translate to the pros. Many players have absolutely dominated in college, only to just flop in the NBA.

    Thomas Robinson is a perfect example of a super athletic tweener that couldn't get it going in the pros.
     
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    That's why Derek Williams, Michael Beasley and Anthony Bennett are all all-stars.
     
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    Bennett doesn't belong with the other two, and the embracing of position less bball wasn't in full effect when they entered the league. Anyways, it's tough to evaluate talent, some obviously talented guys never make it in the league while some you would never guess do. So many factors. Zion may never dominate the NBA but from what I can see so far, I would gamble on him with a top 2 pick.
     
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    The kid is a basketball player we get caught to much on players that we don't know what position there going to play because of there height. Some will say his height of a small forward and weight as power forward. I say he is basketball player that plays at high level.
     
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    It's not height or weight. It's length and quickness.
     
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    RJ Berret is gonna be a better player than Zion. Everyone is hyped about Zion, but RJ is class above him.
     
  16. Natebishop3

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    And how good would a 6'7 shaq have been?
     
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    Not dominant? He absolutely ran around, thru and over those Kentucky kids. They had no answer.
     
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    There are some players either one and been successfully at NBA level. Offensely I think this kid can score at that level and also think he can rebound at that level. The question will be for him can he defend at the NBA level.
     
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    Thats just it. I sat down last night to watch, excited to see all the high flying dunks. What I saw, was a kid with a polished low post game. The ability to rebound and handle the ball on the break, AND drop dimes to players for easy finishes.
    The pay that he snatched the ball mid air, not just block it, but take out of the air like a young Barkley......he pushed it up court and thread the needle to a teammate for a bucket. Against Kentucky no less.
    He does have a feel of a tweener when you look at, but his skill set is amazing.
     
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