There are at least 10 other former Blazers I can think of off the top of my head that played more games, and meant as much or more to this franchise as Brandon Roy, whose numbers are not retired. Roy was a great player for basically 4 years. Sorry, that is not anywhere close to enough time to get your number retired.
Championship, or even getting out of the first round, counts for something. there are a crap load of guys up in our rafters that shouldn't be. Lucas, in all honesty, is a fringe rafter guy.
I'm not even making the case that Roy should have his number retired. I'm ambivalent about it. What I found laughable was comparing him to Martell Webster, which shows such a low-level of BBIQ that I assume you're trolling.
People in this thread brought up Roy "heroic" 4th quarter as some sort of measuring stick. My point was, quarters don't get you in rafters.
I would not blame Roy at all for anything. If you blame anyone it should be KP and Management. How are you going to blame something on someone that they have no control over? KP and the Blazers knew all about Roy and Oden't knees before they drafted them and kept it a secret.
I would have thought someone who is judged and stereotyped on a daily basis would not be so quick to do the same to others.....My bad
I truly don't get where all the anger is coming from. 1) It isn't your money that is being paid to Roy 2) He did what was best for him and his family, financially. 3) Any poster on here would have done the same thing if given the chance 4) Anybody that has actually been a high-level athlete can understand how difficult it would be to actually admit that it's over and not try to give it another shot. 5) It hasn't hamstrung anything we've tried to do with spending since. Roy was an amazing player. He provided some of the most memorable plays, quarters and games I've seen from any player in my life. He was the biggest factor in bringing the Blazers from the laughingstock of the NBA to at least respectable. Comparing Martell's quarter to Roy's 4th quarter is idiotic.
The team has been run as a strict business the last decade; money flowing out of the business is cash not available for other uses. Paul Allen is not writing checks to the Blazers any longer. Same as cash coming in from the Moda deal could help the team; cash that went out the previous three years and still flowing out the next two years could hurt the team. Roy’s contract extension is significantly more than all 10 years of the Moda deal. Would the team have sold second round draft picks if they weren’t still paying Roy’s contract? Would the team have instead bought picks or other assets? Would the team be more likely to pay luxury tax in the future if it is the difference in a stud player? I hope in the future we don’t have to give up on a Harden player because the franchise has lost so much money. I didn’t like that Roy went public with his negotiations and painted management as unfair. He was coming off of two years of all-star play and would’ve got a very similar extension regardless of his comments. Players handle negotiations positively and others handle them negatively. I believe its one of many times Roy put his own selfish interest above that of others or the franchise. Not that other people wouldn’t act similarly; just that anyone who does shouldn’t be regarded as some kind of savior for this franchise because that wasn’t his intentions. He was just another player of many doing what was best for himself, and yes having a great couple of seasons in Portland.
What context? One was a playoff game that ended up meaning nothing One was a regular season game that ended up meaning nothing
For somebody that acts like they know the game, these posts are showing an incredible lack of basketball IQ. Keep going though, it's like watching a one-legged man in an ass kicking contest.
The team being run like a business does not necessarily mean that "money flowing out of the business is cash not available for other uses". That statement basically makes the rest of the post irrelevant. We have shown that when an opportunity presents itself, the team will try to spend the cash. Selling second round picks has nothing to do with Roy's contract. The team can still be run like a business and step up to spend large amounts of cash when it will be a big and smart investment. Example: offering Hibbert a max deal. Your second paragraph basically proves that you don't have an unbiased opinion on the subject. You didn't like how he handled the negotiations, so now you're letting that convince you somehow that we are now selling second round picks because of that.
Is PapaG ignorant of context on purpose, or just the biggest stupe in the history of trolls? Only his hairdresser knows for sure.
Do you even know what you are talking about? The Blazers used to spend above average or well above average on EVERYTHING. Staff, stadium, coaches, bench players, buying picks from other teams. They did it ALL. Paul Allen wrote a big fat check to top up the team loses, every year. Then, they got put on a budget. Spend no more than what you make. If they choose to buy a pick, they have to cut something else. If they pay Brandon Roy a MAX deal to not play on the team, something has to give. How hard is that to understand? And that MAX deal was suspect. The team balked at giving him the full years. They only wanted to guarantee 4 years. Roy put on a public campaign to shame the team, and at the same time refused to play or work out. If some folks want to put on Rose colored glasses and put Roy on a pedestal and refuse to think he could have put the team in a bad spot, that is their prerogative. Don't think others have to buy in to your unicorn and rainbow stories.
