Pac 12... 11... 10... 9... 8... 7...6...5...4... POOF!

going independent isn't a viable option. That's why Notre Dame merged with the ACC...so they could fill out their schedule. The problem is once teams start their conference schedules, they won't want to have a mid to late season date with a team like OSU. And I can't see Apple paying any substantial money for OSU vs some FCS teams and Utah State

obviously, OSU's best option to to join with Cal and WSU to form a revamped PAC. But I think there will be a lot of obstacles in the way of doing that. And I think they will get trapped in a Catch-22 in that teams would not commit to paying an exit fee from their conferences until they see the media deal; and the PAC won't be able to secure a media deal without solid commitments by those teams

again, the simplest option is for OSU/WSU, maybe Cal. to join the MWC in 2024-25. The MWC's media deal ends in 2026 so they'd only be committing to the MWC for two years. Then, in 2026, they might be able to lead the formation of the revamped PAC by taking along the best MWC teams (no exit fee) and cherry picking some teams from the AAC

 

https://www.latimes.com/sports/stor...swer-is-more-complicated-than-you-might-think

Did Larry Scott kill the Pac-12? The answer is more complicated than you might think


The anger was immediate, arising just minutes after news broke that USCand UCLAwereheaded for the Big Ten Conference. Fans tapped out posts on social media, one after another, invoking the name ofLarry Scott.

A year had passed since theformer Pac-12 commissioner stepped down, yet people blamed him for the loss of two marquee programs. They labeled him “destructive” and “a fraud,” predicting that business schools would someday teach about his “leadership failures.”

Larry Scott single-handedly destroyed the Pac-12, they wrote.

This vitriol emanated from a decision Scott made shortly after taking charge in 2009. At a time when other Power Five conferences were partnering with ESPN and Fox to launch dedicated networks — deals that would generate billions of dollars — Scott persuaded his universities to roll the dice.



The Pac-12, he insisted, shouldbuild its own network. The venture might need time to gather momentum, but it would allow the conference to keep all the control, all the profits.

“If we do this right,” Scott recalled telling his university presidents, “it will be successful.”

His gamble never paid off. A decade after their debut, the Pac-12 Networks have yet to gain widespread traction, the conference falling well behind its rivals in annual revenue andstruggling to win on a national levelin the all-important sports of football and men’s basketball.

“It’s easy now to take shots at Larry Scott and play armchair quarterback,” said Patrick Rishe, director of the sports business program at Washington University in St. Louis. “That being said, I think history will show he did not make the wisest decision.”

Which raises the question: With USC and UCLA departing, with speculation about Oregon, Washington and Stanford soon to follow, how much of the blame does Scott deserve?



His hiring looked like a savvy move for a conference lagging in revenue and national reputation. It made sense to bring aboard an outsider who had proved his marketing skills as head of the Women’s Tennis Assn.

Scott, who did not respond to an interview request for this story, knew what he was getting into.

“That was my challenge,” he said in 2010.

The new boss rang the opening bell at NASDAQ and ran a promo in Times Square, saying: “We have an obligation to promote our product as broadly as we can.” He added two schools, Utah and Colorado, through expansion and unveiled a revamped logo.


Television dollars were altering the business of college sports. The Big Ten had partnered with Fox to launch its network in 2007 and the SEC was handing its channel over to ESPN in exchange for a massive rights fee. CBS, ESPN and others expressed interest in the Pac-12.

“One criticism I’ve heard about Larry Scott in the industry is that he always wants to be the smartest guy in the room,” Rishe said. “You wonder if he tried to out-think this one.”

Money and equity were only part of the argument for going it alone. The Pac-12 had always considered itselfthe “Olympic” conference, winning national titles in sports such as swimming, volleyball and water polo. An established broadcaster might focus too narrowly on football and men’s basketball; a self-owned network would ensure these sports received proper exposure.

The Pac-12 Networks launched in 2012 with a national channel and six regional channels, which Scott characterized as an effort to “super-serve fans” in various geographic markets. Scott also worked a historically lucrative side deal, selling a chunk of football and men’s basketball games to ESPN and Fox for $3 billion over 12 years.

That money, he believed, would give his network some cushion to establish itself.

Though the market was crowded — so many sports channels jumping into the fray — the Pac-12 asked carriers for a reported 80 cents per subscriber, more than CNN, USA or FX. Time Warner Cable agreed but negotiations with DirecTV proved more difficult.

“One criticism I’ve heard about Larry Scott in the industry is that he always wants to be the smartest guy in the room. You wonder if he tried to out-think this one.”

— Patrick Rishe, director of the sports business program at Washington University in St. Louis

Scott acknowledged that distribution would be crucial.

“I know there’s a lot of anxiety,” he said in 2012. “It’s understandable … it matters a lot.”

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Three years into his big gamble, during the 2014 Pac-12 football media days in Los Angeles, Scott took a break from the proceedings to find a shady spot outside. Speaking with a reporter, he preached patience.

“You have to look at this based on where we’ll be after 10 years,” he said. “Not three.”

The early returns were not promising.

Still unable to secure a DirecTV deal, the Pac-12 was reaching only 11 million paying subscribers compared to 57 million for the Big Ten. With the SEC set to relaunch to a predicted 67 million households, Scott told his university presidents “we have to look at the benefits long-term.”

Though the ESPN and Fox deals were lucrative, the cable networks demanded nighttime kickoffs to fill empty airtime on the East Coast. Fans and coaches grew frustrated with the “Pac-12 After Dark” games.


Beyond that, Scott’s project hit a stretch of bad luck.

NCAA sanctions hurt USC football more than expected and Oregon lost coach Chip Kelly to the NFL. None of the top men’s basketball programs could reach the Final Four.

The conference found itself in a Catch-22. Its network needed a juggernaut team to lure viewers but, with rival conferences generating larger revenues, spending more on coaches and lavish training facilities, competing for top recruits grew tougher.

“They had a lot of product, but they didn’t have the level of audience they needed,” said Daniel Durban, director of USC’s Institute of Sports, Media and Society. “Frankly, the Pac-12 just wasn’t that compelling.”

Meanwhile, the SEC was pouring unprecedented resources into football, with Nick Saban and Alabama leading the way, racking up one championship after another.

“The Pac-12 schools have always been on the West Coast, they’ve always dealt with visibility and recruiting issues,” Rishe said. “Those issues become more acute once a conference like the SEC takes over and it becomes harder to catch up.”

The Olympic sports could not compensate.

“The Olympic thing can be icing on the cake,” Durbin said. “But you need the core product.”

The numbers remained lukewarm through 2018, the Pac-12 distributing about $30 million a year to its schools, well behind the $40 million-plus the SEC was paying out. Washington State president Kirk Schulz and others began to complain publicly.

That summer, sitting in the stands at an AAU basketball tournament in Garden Grove, watching his teenage son play, Scott held fast.

“I would never say that you wouldn’t make a different call at some point,” he said. “But at this point there’s been a real conviction by our universities and myself that the original purposes of having a Pac-12 network are important.”

ESPN reportedly offered to distribute the network in exchange for an extended rights agreement. No deal was made.

“If that was the case, it was a substantially missed opportunity,” consultant Lee Berke, president of LHB Sports, Entertainment & Media Inc., said. “There is definitely room for criticism.”

At roughly the same time, Scott’s annual salary had risen well above $4 million, making him the highest-paid commissioner, according to USA Today.Pac-12 university presidents finally lost patience after the 2020 football season, when it was announced that Scott would step down in June, a year before the end of his contract.

“At one point, our television agreement was the most lucrative in the nation and the debut of the Pac-12 Networks helped deliver our championship brand to U.S. and global markets on traditional and digital platforms,” Oregon president Michael Schill said in a statement. “That said, the intercollegiate athletics marketplace doesn’t remain static and now is a good time to bring in a new leader who will help us develop our go-forward strategy.”

“Larry Scott is one of the issues, ... [But] you can’t scapegoat just one person.”

— Daniel Durban, director of USC’s Institute of Sports, Media and Society

Their strategy becomes more difficult with current media contracts expiring in 2024 and two, if not five, marquee programs headed out the door.

This exodus can be linked to Scott’s gambit. The Big Ten distributed $680 million to schools in the 2021 fiscal year, almost double the $344 million paid out by the Pac-12. Without additional revenue, UCLA officials said they were at risk of cutting programs. USC president Carol Folt called the Big Ten move a benefit to her school’s “long-term success and stability.”

So where does that leave Scott and his 11-year tenure?

Certainly he must take responsibility for leading the Pac-12 down the path to self-ownership and signing that 12-year ESPN-Fox deal that left the conference unable to adjust to a changing media environment. Also, for failing to shift course in other ways.

“Remember, when he came onto the scene, he was trying to make a splash,” Rishe said. “There was obviously some myopia.”

Some factors were beyond his control.

Experts point to that run of bad luck, the cyclical nature of college sports and the university presidents who signed off on Scott’s media strategy at the start. Once the network launched, campus leaders declined to spend at SEC levels and foster winning teams that would draw more viewers.

The conference also faced an uphill battle in terms of geography and time zones, with a majority of television viewers residing in distant regions of the country.

“Unless you took the Pac-12 and moved it across the Mississippi River, you’re always going to have those problems,” Berke said. “Essentially, that’s what the Big Ten has done, they’ve taken USC and UCLA and moved them into the central and eastern time zones where a lot more of their games are going to be seen.”

Shortly before stepping down, Scott told the Associated Press he lamented his schools not winning more in football. He criticized university leadership for abandoning his plan too soon.

Fans did not react kindly to the comments. Still, the final verdict on his tenure is probably more nuanced than a slew of angry posts on social media might suggest.

“Larry Scott is one of the issues,” Durbin said. But when it comes to something as big as the potential implosion of the Pac-12, he added, “you can’t scapegoat just one person.”

 

You okay?

 

Ivy League it is

 

It's not relevant since other cats haven't adopted it.

 

Designed to keep their bung hole off of everything you own.

 

...and fuck the ACC too!

 

Blech. I hate all of this.
Why did the PAC12 have to be so stupid?

 

Greed.

 

So stupid

 

Pac 12 Presidents allowed the conference to be ruined. I wish they had been greedy enough to manage Scott and proactive enough to inject vitality in the conference. All this could have been done before USC & UClLA announced.
Arrogance & no vision is a big reason which equates to lousy leadership.

 

The Big 12 basically kicked our ass in knowing how to survive & thrive.

 

I am not sure Greed is the right word. Stupidity yes, but when you are getting half the money as the other top conferences is it greed that is the culprit for teams seeking more money? Leadership was just plain stupid over the last decade. And that includes the presidents. Either way, it sickening that it ended up this way.

 

they don't anymore according to what I know

after the State Board went against the very strong wishes of the UofO and fired the UofO president, Richard W. Lariviere, in 2011, Phil Knight, & friends successfully lobbied the legislature to effectively make state universities autonomous in their decisions. It effectively made each state institution a single state agency

"On March 31, 2012, a Political Action Committee called Oregonians For Higher Education Excellence was formed by Columbia Sportswear CEO Tim Boyle.[25] As of May 23, 2012, the organization has raised over $320,000. Notable contributors to the PAC include, Phil Knight, Patrick Kilkenny, and Tim Boyle. According to Boyle, the PAC's stated goal was to help facilitate an increase in autonomy at the University of Oregon.[24]

In reaction to a growing movement to establish an independent university board, the Oregon Legislature in 2013 passed SB 270, requiring local governing boards for the state's three largest institutions.[77][78] Effective July 1, 2014, the University of Oregon became an independent public body governed by the Board of Trustees of the University of Oregon. Proponents of local governing boards believe an independent board will give the university more autonomy, and free it from relying on inadequate state funding"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Oregon

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just as an aside: I was living in Eugene in the 70's. First went to the UofO in 1970. Was a part time student in 1974 when the state took 'OHSU' away from the UofO. It wasn't OHSU at the time, it was the Oregon School of Medicine (IIRC founded by UofO in 1887), the Oregon School of Nursing (founded in the 1920's), and the Oregon School of Dentistry.

the UofO was fighting hard to keep those schools. I was pretty good friends with a couple of UofO students who were part of an administrator/faculty/student committee that went up to Salem and Portland and lobbied the State Board of Higher Ed, and the legislature to 'stop the steal'.

The cover for the legislature and State Board for stripping the schools from the UofO was efficiency and logistics. But both of my friends told me the same thing: in their discussions with legislators and board members, it was clear that the push and intent was to stop the UofO from surpassing OSU because of the prestige AND the growing federal research grants the schools were receiving. OSU had no avenue to compete with that. And there was a lot of concern about the UofO having major influence and political power by having such a large footprint in Portland. My friends were convinced that stripping OHSU from the UofO was mainly about keeping OSU and UofO equivalent

UofO people are aware of that history; Phil Knight certainly is. They are also aware that at least two times, if not more, the UofO has asked the state board for permission to start a school of engineering, but have been denied because of the potential impact on OSU. And of course, there was the situation of the State Board firing the UofO president. There is quite a bit of institutional memory in the UofO built up about how the state has repeatedly propped up OSU at the expense of the UofO. That's why there was such a prolonged push to make the UofO independent, answering to their own Board, instead of the state board. And it finally happened in 2014

so I think any push by OSU and the legislature to steal revenue from the UofO and distribute to OSU would be met with extreme resistance, including legal remedies