Pac 12... 11... 10... 9... 8... 7...6...5...4... POOF!

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  1. blazerfan11

    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

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    I hope Oregon and Washington stay in the Pac whatever.
    UCLA and USC will make more money but could become irrelevant as contending football programs.

    Oregon and Washington are a better base quality-wise for a conference than UCLA and USC and everyone knows that. Maybe that's one of the reasons USC and UCLA are leaving. Might as well take the money if they can't dominate the conference.

    Oregon has a great brand that is independent of playing against UCLA and USC. There's no need to join the Big 10.
     
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    SlyPokerCat cats rool dogs drool

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    Daddy Phil will bail them out
     
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    Doesn't look good for the Pac as its expected that AZ,ASU & Utah to move to the little 12.
    Fox will push big10 to swoop in for the Ducks, Huskies, Trees & Bears.
    Going to be tough on OSU & WSU......
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    If Apple would purchase a part of ESPN there could be a tv pkg?
     
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    that's just slow death; and maybe not that slow....they may as well cancel football

    over the 7 years of the new media deals, the estimates are that Big-10 teams like Rutgers and Maryland will be getting 470-530M; SEC teams will be around 450-500M. Oregon/Washington under the rumored media deals would be getting 120-140M. Over the decade starting in 2024, Rutgers could be earning 800M; Oregon could be earning less than 200M. A 500-600M gap is in-surmountable. And that does not even factor media exposure for recruiting
     
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    "The Big Ten has begun exploratory discussions about expanding membership to 18 or even 20 teams, industry sources have told Yahoo Sports. The schools being considered are Oregon and Washington if the league adds two schools, and Cal and Stanford if it wants to move to 20."

    https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-bi...on-washington-cal-and-stanford-173934989.html

    this is from Dan Wetzel so it's from a credible journalist, not some half-assed blogger

    tweet of the same:


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    https://www.si.com/college/2023/08/02/big-ten-expansion-oregon-washington-pac-12-cal-stanford

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    and of course, can't have an Oregon story without a bitter-beav showing up:

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    Is Rutgers going to be recruiting better than Oregon and field a better team?
     
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    Unless the players are going to directly get a share of all this money by being paid, what's the competitive difference for Oregon?

    So what if Rutgers makes a billion dollars and has a 5-5 record.
    Are players actually going to be impressed by that? What's the Rutgers football brand?
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Sly I think you should save your feelings…..OSU may actually start winning some games in multiple sports, which can only be good for them and their programs. I’m quite sure they are tired of being at the bottom of a Power conference and wouldn’t mind 20 years of success in a weaker one.
     
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    Who's going to be watching it? Not me.
     
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    if the Ducks can't recruit Southern Cal anymore because they never play there; and if they start getting shut out in Texas, it's entirely possible

    this isn't just about pure recruiting though. You need to have a high level coach and those are costing 7-10M/year; and high level assistant coaching staffs are adding another 3M. That's half of what the Ducks would be getting from the media deal. It's simply unsustainable
     
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    by the way, I would still rate the odds of Oregon getting into the Big-10 about 50-50. Too many monkey-wrenches laying in the path
     
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    This post can fuck off.
     
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    A conference with overflowing money paying its coaches $50 million per year can't all be winners. That's where Rutgers is at. Even if by some miracle they out-recruit Oregon which is far-fetched, the are not going out-recruit Ohio State and Michigan.
    If the Ducks get a ton more money by joining a different conference, they'll be in the same boat.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Where is the NCAA in all of this?

    A coach buys a player a hamburger and the NCAA is all upset.

    An entire conference gets fucked by USC to the point of collapse and the NCAA is silent?

    The NCAA can't call CBS and TNT and say you know, maybe we should see what Apple TV will offer for March Madness the next time the contract is up.

    The Pac 12 has run a clean conference with high academic standards and graduation rates. The very things that the NCAA is supposed to monitor and promote.

    It's in the best interest of the student-athletes to have strong and successful athletic conferences across the entire nation.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The NCAA is impotent.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    If the NBA commish can say no to a trade, can't the NCAA say no to USC and UCLA leaving the PAC-12 unless there is a fair and equitable TV contract for the Pac-12?

    Sounds like FOX, ESPN, and others are behind the scenes trying to get super conferences and are willing to fuck smaller universities over to make it happen.

    Does the NCAA really think the TV networks won't come for them next? "Leave the NCAA and we'll set up a Super Conference of the top 30 Football and Men's Basketball programs." Let the NCAA deal with women's sports and soccer.
     
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    The NCAA says the Oregon lottery can't offer betting on college sports but they'll let college sports here die or be severely hurt?

    Fucking hypocrisy.
     

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