Truth be told, I think they should tone down the praise for Favre, too. It's that kind of thing that made me grow up hating Joe Montana. Heck, one of the Green Bay newspaper columnists penned this headline on Tuesday morning: "TV salutes Favre and, oh yeah, also broadcasts a game." That about sums it up.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>"TV salutes Favre and, oh yeah, also broadcasts a game." That about sums it up.</div> That is funny
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>Truth be told, I think they should tone down the praise for Favre, too. It's that kind of thing that made me grow up hating Joe Montana.</div> Actually beating the Bears is what made me hate Fav-Re, but the commentators thing only reaffirms that my Hatred is correct.
What a contradiction on yourself. People cant bring down Manning for being praised. But doing it to Favre is ok. Thats B.S.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'>What a contradiction on yourself. People cant bring down Manning for being praised. But doing it to Favre is ok. Thats B.S.</div> Yes, because, i was serious No humor there, i was very very serious
I don't know what the big deal is. The NFL needs good role models and Favre is a great one. Everyone that talks about him says nothing but good things about his character and in a day and age when atheletes like Randy Moss and Artest bring down their respective sports on attitude and character, there's nothing like a Farve to bring respectability to a sport. Not to mention, he's played in 200 games and is still a very good QB. Hate him because he's good? Seems a bit silly to me. I'm not the biggest Ravens fan, but I have a lot of respect for some of the players who have had tons of success even if their character's weren't the best.... ie Lewis & Lewis.
What has Moss done that is any worse than Favre? At least Moss has never had drug abuse problems. Besides the occasional water bottle squirt on a ref, or running down the occasional traffic cop... but my point remains! Favre isn't exactly perfect, he has his demons.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2004)</div><div class='quotemain'>Randy Moss and Artest bring down their respective sports on attitude and character</div> Actually, having Moss and Artest in the same sentence kind of offends me. If you are looking for an NFL bad boy, there are many worse than Moss. T.O jumps right to mind. Talk about poor attitude and character!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rube Cred)</div><div class='quotemain'>What has Moss done that is any worse than Favre? At least Moss has never had drug abuse problems.</div> Hate to burst your bubble, but Moss has had drug problems that weren't released. However, I do agree that Moss is not the NFL bad boy...he's just given that image and certainly hasn't helped his own reputation. I do think that putting Moss with Artest is a pretty far stretch. He's no where near as bad.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2004)</div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know what the big deal is. The NFL needs good role models and Favre is a great one. Everyone that talks about him says nothing but good things about his character and in a day and age when atheletes like Randy Moss and Artest bring down their respective sports on attitude and character, there's nothing like a Farve to bring respectability to a sport. Not to mention, he's played in 200 games and is still a very good QB. Hate him because he's good? Seems a bit silly to me. I'm not the biggest Ravens fan, but I have a lot of respect for some of the players who have had tons of success even if their character's weren't the best.... ie Lewis & Lewis.</div> I have to agree with the others on this one. I don't like Farve because he's on a division rival and he is really good, but I do hate to hear the announcers drool all over themselves when Favre throws the ball off his back foot or some other relatively unimpressive feat. The media picks their good guys and their bad guys. Favre is a good guy, so they'll praise him to no end. Moss is a bad guy, so is TO. It doesn't matter what these guys do, they can't change that. Just look at Kobe Bryant. He was a good guy, but now it seems all sorts of dirt is coming out on him. Its the media's tendencies to canonize those they like while condemning those that don't give a good interview or don't have any PR skills.
Little do you people know, Favre has been through a hell of a lot the past couple of years. Especially with his personal life, and to go out and have some awesome games, to have played in 200 games, I think that deserves a lot of credit. So give credit where it's due at.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>Hate to burst your bubble, but Moss has had drug problems that weren't released. However, I do agree that Moss is not the NFL bad boy...he's just given that image and certainly hasn't helped his own reputation. I do think that putting Moss with Artest is a pretty far stretch. He's no where near as bad.</div> There is no bubble to burst. Moss has had issues with pot, but I don't think he has ever been suspended for drug related problems. Not like our second year playa O. Smith. Anyway, Favre used painkillers to enhance his performance (cheat) and Moss used pot because he is an idiot. Why these guys risk all that they have to smoke up is beyond me. I'd never deny that Favre is a good player, Hall of Famer, ect. The point is that the media picks its good boys and it's bad boys, and Favre is their all time good boy. Moss has a little too much of a bad rap. Favre has a little too much of a good one. They are both good football players and fun to watch. I almost had to turn off the Monday night game because every stinking play was oh Favre did this, and Favre did that. The most annoying part was when Davenport broke the 30+ yard TD run, the camera's went straight to Favre. What did he do on that play? They showed more of Favre than of the guy who had the run! I can just hear Madden "Look at the way Brett handed that ball off. If it wasn't for that handoff this play goes nowhere. Look at the footwork and the intensity in his eyes. Brett willed the handoff exchange to go smoothly, and that broke open the hole." Sorry, I could go on for pages...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FootballFanaticChick)</div><div class='quotemain'>Little do you people know, Favre has been through a hell of a lot the past couple of years. Especially with his personal life, and to go out and have some awesome games, to have played in 200 games, I think that deserves a lot of credit. So give credit where it's due at.</div> I do know a lot about Favre. The Twin Cities papers write almost as much about him as they do Culpepper. Like I said earlier, I'd never deny that he is a good player, and his will to win and love for the game is admirable.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rube Cred)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vikingfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>Hate to burst your bubble, but Moss has had drug problems that weren't released. However, I do agree that Moss is not the NFL bad boy...he's just given that image and certainly hasn't helped his own reputation. I do think that putting Moss with Artest is a pretty far stretch. He's no where near as bad.</div> There is no bubble to burst. Moss has had issues with pot, but I don't think he has ever been suspended for drug related problems. Not like our second year playa O. Smith. Anyway, Favre used painkillers to enhance his performance (cheat) and Moss used pot because he is an idiot. Why these guys risk all that they have to smoke up is beyond me. I'd never deny that Favre is a good player, Hall of Famer, ect. The point is that the media picks its good boys and it's bad boys, and Favre is their all time good boy. Moss has a little too much of a bad rap. Favre has a little too much of a good one. They are both good football players and fun to watch. I almost had to turn off the Monday night game because every stinking play was oh Favre did this, and Favre did that. The most annoying part was when Davenport broke the 30+ yard TD run, the camera's went straight to Favre. What did he do on that play? They showed more of Favre than of the guy who had the run! I can just hear Madden "Look at the way Brett handed that ball off. If it wasn't for that handoff this play goes nowhere. Look at the footwork and the intensity in his eyes. Brett willed the handoff exchange to go smoothly, and that broke open the hole." Sorry, I could go on for pages...</div> Moss isn't a Ron Artest because the NFL has really cracked down on image. But Moss fell to the 18th pick or whatever because of his attitude and off the field issues. Favre fell in his draft because of a car accident that he was in that caused him to miss his senior year. Big difference. Favre has come back from a lot of problems and drug abuse and cleaned up his life and is a good role model for drug rehab and kids in general. We all get tired of the ear beating that the announcers give especially when it's a division rival, but to knock Favre for it is ridiculous. I wouldn't even compare Moss & TO. Moss seems to have grown out of the crying on the sidelines. But I would say that Brett Favre doesn't take plays off like Moss has in the past and believe that Favre has a much better competitive spirit than Moss....
Steelerfan, you make a lot of good points. I can't defend Moss too much, he is a headcase. My main gripe is with the media infatuation lovefest with Favre. Oh that and Favre is a division rival the bastard!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FootballFanaticChick)</div><div class='quotemain'>Little do you people know, Favre has been through a hell of a lot the past couple of years. Especially with his personal life, and to go out and have some awesome games, to have played in 200 games, I think that deserves a lot of credit. So give credit where it's due at.</div> Who hasn't had a rough life? If your judging by that criteria the Joe Juravecious should be in the hall with Esiason. 200 games is an unbelievable run but down play the "let's feel sorry for the guy" card. Half the players in the leagues probably grew up in holes we can hardly imagine.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rube Cred)</div><div class='quotemain'>Steelerfan, you make a lot of good points. I can't defend Moss too much, he is a headcase. My main gripe is with the media infatuation lovefest with Favre. Oh that and Favre is a division rival the bastard!</div> There's no doubt that the media loves Favre, but the question comes back to is it validated? I don't see as a big deal, but then again, the Steelers don't play him twice a year and he's a damn good QB. I'm sure you'll be happy when he retires... Bednarik... I don't think it's about having a bad life, it's what he'd done with his life that's important. Does he donate his time? Does he help his community? He's a good role model for our youth? These things matter more than what this conversation is allowing. I don't feel bad for anyone that makes a million dollars a year + if they had a rough life. It's part of being in the national spotlight and having responsibilities that go along with that. Some athletes just don't know how to deal with it. Favre isn't one of them.
Steerlerfan, Read her post, she IS saying that Favre's had such bad life. That was my point. Sure Brett is a great guy and role model (I can't believe I'm agreeing with a Steeler fan) but I won't fall into the crybaby crap that the media plays all the time about him. Talk to me about records and stats and I'll admit the guy is easily top 5 of all time. Just don't say he does all of this with so much personal anguish and termoil. Everyone has their stories, he's no different. ....and about the game, go philly
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2004)</div><div class='quotemain'>There's no doubt that the media loves Favre, but the question comes back to is it validated? I don't see as a big deal, but then again, the Steelers don't play him twice a year and he's a damn good QB.</div> Is it validated? To some extent. I think this is why some of us hate watching the games where he is playing...the announcers give him credit for EVERYTHING. I remember watching a game where the announcers drooled over the fact that he threw the ball off of his back foot...HIS BACK FOOT!!! If you are a starting NFL Quarterback, you better be able to throw off your back foot! Even Moss threw one TD last season where it was off of his back foot. Favre deserves a lot of credit, but criticism is short for him. For every minute of talking about how he gambles too much, we have a whole hour of how strong his arm is. I'd have to be an idiot to say Favre is not good, or that he is not a good guy. I just wish I could watch a game with him in it that doesn't consist of solely watching him. In all...the story is old.
