Palin/Biden Debate Thread (Democrats suck)

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  1. Denny Crane

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    We talked a little about those graphs on the CNN screen during the debate.

    Both sides practiced and had at least one focus group similar to the crowd running those CNN graphs. Stuff that worked with the focus groups, they tried to say during the debate.
     
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    Wrong, and Biden's many, many lies in the debate pretty much disqualify him. I loved his "West Bank" commentary. Um, Gaza, Joe?

    Also, please stop editing my posts.
     
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    :lol: :crazy:

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/joe-drill-palin-2178636-mccain-biden
     
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    Here are 14 lies by Joe Biden last night:

    1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.


    2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.


    3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”


    4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.


    5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.


    6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.


    7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false


    8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.


    9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.


    10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.


    11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.


    12. TAX INCREASES : Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.


    13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”


    14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.


    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/bidens_big_lies_all_14_of_them.html
     
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    Biden can sure draw a huge audience!

    Democrats don't want to know these things:

    <tt>
    TOTALS

    ABC 13,130,000
    NBC 12,820,000
    CBS 11,100,000
    FOXNEWS 11,098,000
    CNN 10,685,000
    FOX 4,500,000
    MSNBC 4,412,000
    </tt>
     
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    No PBS? I watched their grainy "HD" broadcast and the analysis that followed. It made the McNeill-Lehrer Report look like Jerry Springer.
     
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    PBS did 3M or less, I remember reading.
     
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    Good, all these people watched how amazing Palin was and it's going to start showing in the latest polls, right?
     
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    Is the election today?

    Only in Ohio, where they're doing very illegal things to help Obama.
     
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    Are you answering a question with another question?

    Make your prediction. Will McCain/Palin receive a bump in the polls?
     
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    I don't know. Obama hasn't quite run away with the election, and the polls were reversed a few weeks ago - less time ago than there's left in the election.
     
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    A small one, but it won't matter. All the battleground states are now on the territory that McCain has to win. This election was over the minute McCain didn't promote a bill that took the American people off the hook for the bailout.
     
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    Yep. McMaverick was hoisted by his own petard. Good riddance, and good luck Obama. With a majority in Congress and the Presidency, we all want to cash the checks you've been promising us.

    Make "America great again".
     
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    Obama was up 52 to 39 in yesterday's polling for Research 2000's tracker. Palin's favorability rebounded a little bit...but two problems, McCain's favorability is going in the tank, and Biden's favorability took a huge jump after the debate. Obama's lead with women is getting ridiculous.

    Palin not looking like a complete moron wasn't a game changer at all. With Biden's favorability reaching Obama's level, and Paln's just hardly rebounding, it's hard to see this election ever being close right now.

    On MSNBC's map right now, Obama already has 269 electoral votes, that's before you divvy up the toss ups. With the 2 new New Hampshire polls that showed Obama up by 10+, Obama will likely be at 273 electoral votes just counting leaners/safe.

    McCain's campaign turned into a three ring circus, they are starting to run short on money, and they're down by too much to make up, short of an October surprise.

    Looks for Reverend Wright and Ayers to pop up in some commercials soon.
     
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    I'll tell you what. Nothing makes me feel better than putting my infant son to bed knowing that I'm living well and he has to pay the debt that's being racked up in my name.
     

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