Patriotism

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  1. Memphology

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    Im not saying its really a bad thing, but majority of the people who dont want to get into those reserves are liberals...and they all arent enviromentalists. But I understand what you mean by stereotyping all liberals.
     
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    It's actually a good thing that we aren't using our own reserves. It makes more sense to just get it from other countries instead of destroying parts of our own country.
     
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    True, but the whole reason of getting Alaska was for its oil, why now that we have it, why are we still paying more for oil cause of the situation in the middle east. In a matter of years though the common person wont hardly use gas anymore cause of automobile technology. Oil and gas used in major industries may take alot longer though to transition.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BluffCityBlue @ Jun 6 2007, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And what makes people think this war isnt progressing is the media. I saw a story last night on my local news station about a computer operator in Iraq(he was in the army), but hes volunteered for over 200 missions, and he came back to Memphis because his leg was severely damaged. They asked him why did he volunteer so much, and he said he knows the US military is doing so much good for Iraq, and he also said it is frightening how he comes back to the US and sees the media portray OUR military as terrorists who arent helping the Iraqi people at all. You will NEVER see a story like that on CNN, MSNBC or even FoxNews.</div>Really the war in Iraq isn't progressing all that much at all. With Saddam in power there was atleast some control over the country. Now it's all just complete madness, with the sectarian violence between the Sunni's and Shiites. The terrorist networks in Iraq are gaining more and more power since Saddam was taken out of control, and it is turning into pretty much civil warfare. After Saddam was taken out of power, an election was held to get Iraqi leaders into place. The problem was, that at the time lots of Sunni's in lots of provinces decided they was not going to vote. So naturally, the government is mostly Shiite ran, and to go along with that the Shiites are what makes up most of the Iraqi National Police(INP), and Iraqi National Army(INA.) When Saddam was in charge, the Sunni's had the most power and constantly was messing with the Shiites. Now with the Shiites mostly in control, the Police and Army keep on arresting people just because they are Sunni's, and commiting lots of pretty much war crimes on the Sunni's. So naturally the Sunni's feel they have no protection from the Iraqi government, and since the U.S. is backing the Iraqi government and trying to make it work they are not turning to us. So in turn lots of the Sunni's are turning to the terrorist organizations in Iraq, for protection, effectively becoming terrorists which is understandable on the Sunni's part, but is causing more sectarian warfare in Iraq. So right now, the U.S. military's biggest concern is stopping the Army and Police from doing this to the Sunni's, so they will turn to us for their help. It's really not working well though, and major warfare is still going on in this country. So really, the War hasn't progessed much at all for us, it may have even took a step back for us.
     
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    Well, I cant argue. I refuse to disagree with somebody who is actually there....You are in Iraq arent you?I wasnt really talking about the US, but the progression of Iraq, the media portrays it like Iraq was essentially better under Saddam than the US. Which it my seem like that now, but it will be better for the future...unless somebody takes advatnage of Iraqs vulnerbility.
     
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    how do u know that the media is wrong? where do u get your info from then?
     
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    From soldiers who have been interviewed...
     
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    nvm delete this
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BluffCityBlue @ Jun 10 2007, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>From soldiers who have been interviewed...</div>well ive heard many soldiers on interviews say that we aren't accomplishing much over there and it's pretty much pointless to still be over there - and many reporters that go over there and come back pretty much say the same thing.
     

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