Pau Gasol Requests Trade!!!

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  1. iLL PiLL

    iLL PiLL JBB JustBBall Member

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    Perfect video he looks just like my uncle..and so does the rest of the asian community jk!! i really hope we get him and nelly always loves international players and is good at finding them
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    That guy looks like an nba style athlete all right. But what else does he do? Basically Nene can do all that stuff and he's been super disappointing. And besides Yi can't do that hanging on the rim thing they allow over there. That's an automatic T. [​IMG] I wonder if he can adjust to the rectangle key versus trapezoidal for post play and post D.
     
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  5. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Hmmm, if we even get up there on the draft board or if his draft stock falls, we'll have to figure out who plays the post. It would have to be Biedrins. It's like with Minnesota and how it was hard for them to win without a good center. Garnett is in between SF and PF, so it was important to find a good low post center to avoid being a perimeter based team. When they had a good backcourt they were playoff team. But if they did not have that, then it was hard for them to win. Lately, the Wolves have been doing a better job winning because of the play by Mark Blount lately and backcourt is decent although not the same where Sam Cassell helped make everyone better.
     
  6. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The music in that video will drop his stock significantly...</div>

    A girl must have made the video. If not, I'm gonna laugh.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The music in that video will drop his stock significantly...</div>
    Still it's to early to start gamble on him, warriors might as well get to playofs [​IMG] And what if warriors don't have a chane to get him then just pass on the chance to get gasol? If Memphis would be interested, then maybe it's worth to send MP+Foyle+2007 1st round pick for gasol.
    I agree on the music part. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">A girl must have made the video. If not, I'm gonna laugh.</div>

    lol funny how someone posted this video before this years draft and someone said the same exact thing. That music is awful
     
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    I would give literally anything on this team to make it work. That includes Baron, Jrich, Ellis, Biedrens etc so long as we do not take crap back along with Gasol unless we give them someone like Foyle back. I hope this can happen. Sure we are playoff material for sure right now, but with Gasol, we would be championship material. Imagine if we could deal a healthy and productive player like Jrich and Maybe Biedrens for Gasol and someone else? Man, I gotta think that with Baron, Jackson, Gasol, Harrington etc would be a championship caliber squad...
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Playoff material right now? We better not count our chickens before the eggs even hatch.

    Playoff teams have some form of defense, ability to rebound, and score inside outside aside from their guards. I think we're still weak in a lot of ways even compared to Minny. So let's be cautious. This team still depends on Baron like Minny does with Garnett. I would like to be the Lakers. A team that can survive without Odom or Kobe for some stretches because the rest of the team is playing well together.

    We need another star-like player besides Baron if Jrich isn't going to be there like he was last year. I think we're in the right step if we can make good drafts, make another good trade, and sign impact FA's and not just two skills only type role players.

    I'm hoping Jax can provide some star like qualities for some games and same with Harrington + Ellis and maybe Pietrus. I hope I hope I hope.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The music in that video will drop his stock significantly...</div>

    My roommates think I'm gay now.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Kensaku Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">My roommates think I'm gay now.</div>

    Wait a sec. That's your video??? OMG sorry bud. Forget what I said dude! [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Wait a sec. That's your video??? OMG sorry bud. Forget what I said dude! [​IMG]</div>

    [​IMG]

    Yi rocks my Yang.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Kensaku Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">[​IMG]

    Yi rocks my Yang.</div>

    LOL [​IMG]
     
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    The Chinese dude is intriguing, but IMO we don't need another project. The Warriors may be rapidly shaping themselves for a near-term run at going deep into the playoffs. No, I'm not kidding! This recent trade is a big step, with one elite big man playing alongside Andris and everyone else healthy I believe this team would be a deep playoff threat, maybe not this year but next year for sure. And we're one of few teams who have the pieces to pull off such a trade without bargaining away our franchise in the process. We still have JRich, Monta, and Pietrus as possible chips -- all guys with attractive talent but whose roles are currently in question with the Warriors because of the glut of guards and small forwards we have. You put Andris alongside one of the elite big men in the league (either at PF or C) and you instantly have one of the most dominant frontcourts in the NBA that will be a nightmare for opposing teams, plus you still have Baron and two other athletic guys with real NBA skills at SG and SF (whoever you don't end up trading).

    Point one is that I'd rather have KG or JO than Gosol -- but they're probably franchise-breakers and not available anyway.

    Point two is that I'd certainly try to not give up Monta or JRich to acquire him first, and/or I'd try to dump Foyle's contract on them, but that's asking a lot.

    Point three is that while Yi Lian Jian is intriguing, this team does not need to pin it's hopes on the small chances of first acquiring and then developing another promising project. We got very lucky to have one project pan out in Biedrins, and maybe another one in Monta, let's quit while we're ahead. Going after projects smells like more years of sitting out the playoffs to me, and Don Nelson isn't getting any younger.

    EDIT: Warriorsfansnc93, I think you are high giving up Biedrins for Gasol, that defeats the purpose!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">HiRez Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
    Point three is that while Yi Lian Jian is intriguing, this team does not need to pin it's hopes on the small chances of first acquiring and then developing another promising project. We got very lucky to have one project pan out in Biedrins, and maybe another one in Monta, let's quit while we're ahead. Going after projects smells like more years of sitting out the playoffs to me, and Don Nelson isn't getting any younger.
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    I agree with you, but wasn't drafting Ike the whole point of not waiting around on projects? That didn't seem to work out too well...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I agree with you, but wasn't drafting Ike the whole point of not waiting around on projects? That didn't seem to work out too well...</div>Well, it didn't work out ideally, but Ike allowed us to dump both Dun and Murph in one fell swoop -- therefore I think it worked out brilliantly!
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    If that Yi guy is as smart, athletic, highly skilled and finesse as they say, he might not be a project really if he is at least wirey strong or strong enough for the nba. Garnett, Bosh, AK47, and even Yao proved they could get bigger or handle their own with their great skills. It's guy like Dunleavy, Danny Ferry or Dan Langhi that get pushed around so easily because they got no legs or any weight/strength on them relative to the other guys they are playing against. Plus, they got very little outside of their basic game to make adjustments to what they're facing physically matchup wise.

    Now if Yi has no ability to take contact like those three or if he's actually a dumb player like Stromile Swift or just doesn't care much like Jerome Moiso, then he's a bad gamble.

    If fans think we're richer now, let's get even richer come offseason or else there's no hope for this franchise to gain momentum the way winners do. We grab more ways to beat opponents and we gain depth at the same time. I don't want to just run and run and run, I hope we eventually play defense and go halfcourt from time to time just to show teams we can beat them by doing what they cannot respond to. Defensive teams like the Cavs can put us on our asses if we're not playing good offense. So I hoped a better defense + inside scoring could pick up the fastbreak game again or stop us from shooting too many bricks.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">HiRez Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well, it didn't work out ideally, but Ike allowed us to dump both Dun and Murph in one fell swoop -- therefore I think it worked out brilliantly!</div>

    True, but the point is that when Ike was drafted the idea was that we had a playoff competitive roster and although there were high profile, high potential guys available Ike provided that immediate help in the post that would help the team make the playoffs. Well, the team sucked ass and even if Ike played more it wouldn't have changed the fact that we weren't a playoff team. "NBA ready" rookies aren't going to make much difference in determining whether your team is a playoff team or not unless its a guy who can step right into the league and be a star, but there won't be anyone like that when we pick.

    I agree with you that this team is just a stud PF away from competing for a championship but I believe that the draft is where you get your stars, not through trades or free agency. Obviously none of us have seen very much of this kid but hes one of the better international prospects out there and hes got great physical tools, at our position in the draft he'd probably have the most superstar potential of anyone else available (if hes even available). Of course, you've got to leave the pick up to Mully, Nellie, and the scouts but from what limited information us fans have he seems to be a very good prospect and he could be available where we're drafting. We don't have any other needs, might as well take a flyer on this kid or a kid like him who could be that superstar big we've been lacking instead of trading the farm for a 28+ year old recycled big man.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Run BJM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
    I agree with you that this team is just a stud PF away from competing for a championship but I believe that the draft is where you get your stars, not through trades or free agency. </div>

    If you mean Tim Duncan, then I agree [​IMG]

    Let's think playoffs first. Some guys are great in regular season/poor in playoffs, while others are poor in regular season/great in playoffs. Ideally, we want a guy that is great in both. It means they feel the sense of urgency and they have the ability to win with great pressure, great variety of things they can do to help win, and what they can do despite skilled defenders going against them.
     

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