OT Paul Allen's Space Program being shut down by Vulcan and sold off

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  1. borim69

    borim69 Well-Known Member

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    The most barbaric tax law is the death tax law. People think that it gets the billionaires and it is a good thing when it reality for every billionaire it taxes at the time of their death it destroys 50 to 60 Farmers and Ranchers and their families at the time of their deaths. The IRS comes in and taxes the land at commercial rate and the equipment as new and the family has to sell the farm to pay the tax bill which is always more than what they can get for the farm itself. Bush junior got rid of it but Obama brought it back when George Steinbrenner died and left all his billions to one person and all the politicians about committed suicide because they could not get any of that money that was already taxed once. It forces small business's to sell out quickly to huge corporations. Sorry I am not in favor of the double death tax that money has already been taxed once it should not be taxed again I do not care how rich you are.
     
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    This is OT so i will respond in a way that will be as un-political as possible.
    Your statement about Bush Junior and Obama is timing correct but taxes are imposed by congress. Not the President. The modern estate tax was temporarily phased out and repealed by tax legislation in 2001. This legislation gradually dropped the rates until they were eliminated in 2010. However, the law did not make these changes permanent and the estate tax returned in 2011. But late in 2010, before that clause took effect, Congress passed superseding legislation that imposed a 35 percent tax in 2011 and 2012 on estate in excess of $5 million. Like the 2001 legislation, the 2010 legislation had a sunset clause so that in 2013 the estate tax would return to its 2001 level. But then on New Year's Day 2013, Congress made permanent an estate tax on estates in excess of $5 million at a rate of 40 percent. Since that point Congress has been under the control of Republicans and for much of that time they have controlled both houses.
    I agree that the "Death Tax" is wrong but i disagree with putting the blame of the effect on the President. Bush Jr did very little to help anyone's taxes though he did send everyone a check. Obama did very little to hurt anyone's taxes but he didn't really try to help them either. Trump has allowed congress to rape us but that is another story.
     
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  3. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Lol yeah no. Only conservatives respond to it this way and This is not the subject of the thread.
     
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  4. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    You could have some shithole owner such as the Sonics had. Then you're up a creek with no paddle.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Where did you find boreim69's post?
    To respond to his post - the so called death tax only hits the very wealthiest. You can pass on quite a bit without being asked to pay any tax at all. You've got to pass on more than $5.3 Million per individual recipient before any inheritance tax at all is levied.
    About 99.9% of estates is passed on with no tax.
     
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  6. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Who's to say Jody's not like that
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Not likely. That would be an insult to Paul's memory. Some other owner, however, might be a bad deal for us.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    You're guessing on Jody. We don't know. Also, if you think she's great, what makes you think she'd sell it to an A hole
     
  9. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I think I noted that I was making an educated guess when I spoke of Paul's memory.
    Also, I never said she was great. I just said that it was likely that she would honor his memory. This in no way is any kind of iron clad guarantee, just a guess.
     
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  10. riverman

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    I imagine everything Paul wanted Jody to preserve was part of his will. I expect the team to be in Portland longer than I'll live to see. Go Blazers! You can't find fanbases like ours ...it's special.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Just to correct the record, as of now the federal estate tax exemption is $11.4M for an individual or $22.8M for a couple.

    And very few family farms pay the tax

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    It's the post right above mine Lanny.
     
  13. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Pardon me. My only excuse is that I've got an appointment to get my contacts adjusted tomorrow. Are you willing to buy that or do I need to bring cash?
     
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    Lanny if i ever get the chance i most certainly will buy as many as you want.
     
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