Alright, I'm really lagging on my work today. I've got to close S2 and focus. It's been a good discussion -- hopefully see y'all tonight for the homecoming victory!
You are looking at this literally. Let me break it down... Give it in secrete; means don't give so others know you given because of you. But if you read the entire passage; what that means is not to give for others to see what you do for your own glory. Because of that "Selfless act", you get the reward from God. But before, he is telling you that anything that will show and prove to the world that gift is for the Glory of God; and you better show that it's only for his glory; you get a reward.
The bottom-line in all of this is that, (as a Christian) when you perform acts of compassion, help others, or give to the needy, etc., it's not about getting personal giggles or kudos and/or glory.....it's about genuinely doing it as if you were helping Jesus, Himself..and for HIS glory. Jesus even alluded to that out in Scripture:
All humans agree that killing is not moral. And don't get it confused with killing because of justification. All humans want to love; another moral that is universal. All humans want peace of some kind.
most modern humans would agree that killing for no reason whatsoever is immoral. that's one of the very few things we agree on, and it's a matter of common sense because we all value our own lives. the moral dilemma is in what constitutes justification for killing. yet the USA is split 50/50 over the morality of gay marriage. yet we are widely split over whether wars are morally justifiable or not.
But that's besides the point. I am replying that this isn't a learned or instinct. Doesn't matter, everyone still wants to be loved. This statement holds no grounds to my statement. But still the human civilizations all want peace in some way or another; which is "moral", not instinct. Remember that we are talking about the difference between instinct and morality being different. I am just saying that all humans have this "morality infused". How they choose to act or disagree on the value, justification or belief what is true love holds no relevance that all humans feel this way.
Humans don't have any morality "infused." The first tool was likely used to beat someone else over the head. Our morals and the morals of the Romans are extremely different. And I think I'd like to become a religious person. I like the Hindu god, and he made the universe in a very different way than the christian one did. How does that square?
we agree that people shouldn't murder each other because we share the value of not wanting to die. this agreement is a matter of common sense, not some metaphysical miracle out of nowhere. homosexuality is a prescriptive moral topic. just saying 'everyone wants to be loved' isn't. when you say that you're just talking about how we feel, not what we should do. and most higher mammals want to be loved in the same way humans do, and most form the same social bonds humans do. so good luck differentiating that from evolved instinct. well yeah, humans consciously value their own well-being. again that's simple common sense. no reason to resort to some mysterious metaphysical infusion from god to explain that.
LOL, we are talking about morals. And to be perfectly honest; the truest morals are as easy as common sense. When it comes easy, there are no questions regardless of Faith, Science, Political View, etc. It is non-discriminative across the board. Which again, is from your original point; there are common morals regardless of Faith, Creed, Political View, etc.
Hmmm, so you were a caveman and able to study them for their course of existence? So now you know what they are thinking? Maybe Denny is God! You saying the thoughts and feelings of people before their was written history is as factual as Christianity is the only religion. But I'm glad you are playing the "Faith" game with us too. You have a lot of faith to think morality's first tool used to be beating someone else over the head.
Hmmm, so you were a caveman and able to study them for their course of existence? So now you know what they are thinking? Maybe Denny is God! You saying the thoughts and feelings of people before their was written history is as factual as Christianity is the only religion. But I'm glad you are playing the "Faith" game with us too. You have a lot of faith to think morality's first tool used to be beating someone else over the head.
First of all, read my signature. God thinks he's Denny Crane. Second, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ötzi_the_Iceman#Cause_of_death n 2001 X-rays and a CT scan revealed that Ötzi had an arrowhead lodged in his left shoulder when he died,[37] and a matching small tear on his coat.[38] The discovery of the arrowhead prompted researchers to theorize Ötzi died of blood loss from the wound, which would likely have been fatal even if modern medical techniques had been available.[39] Further research found that the arrow's shaft had been removed before death, and close examination of the body found bruises and cuts to the hands, wrists and chest and cerebral trauma indicative of a blow to the head. One of the cuts was to the base of his thumb that reached down to the bone but had no time to heal before his death. Currently it is believed that death was caused by a blow to the head, though researchers are unsure if this was due to a fall, or from being struck with a rock by another person.[40] Unpublished and thus unconfirmed DNA analyses claim they revealed traces of blood from four other people on his gear: one from his knife, two from the same arrowhead, and a fourth from his coat.[41] Interpretations of these findings were that Ötzi killed two people with the same arrow, and was able to retrieve it on both occasions, and the blood on his coat was from a wounded comrade he may have carried over his back.[38] Ötzi's unnatural posture in death (frozen body, face down, left arm bent across the chest) suggests that the theory of a solitary death from blood loss, hunger, cold and weakness is untenable. Rather, before death occurred and rigor mortis set in, the Iceman was turned on to his stomach in the effort to remove the arrow shaft. (this guy died 5,300 years ago, shortly after the earth was created... long before the early dynastic period of Egypt)
There are millions of people who believe the world is flat. There are millions of people who believe we never landed on the moon. There are millions of people who can't differentiate between fiction and non-fiction. There are millions of people who believe 72 virgins await them in heaven. There are millions of people who insist the Earth is only 6,000 years old. So yeah, I dismiss those people's opinions on those subjects because I know they are preposterous. Like believing the bible is a work of non-fiction.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Most humans think it's perfectly reasonable, as long as they aren't held legally responsible for it and it happens to strangers in another land. Hell, they'll even pay for it through their taxes. A good proportion of serial killers were actually told by god to kill their victims. And you know better than I how many humans idolize and worship god, the #1 mass murderer of alltime. IMO, there are only two acceptable reasons to kill another human. Self-defense and revenge.
LOL! Yeah one person was dug up and because of this one person, morality was to beat someone's head in. Come on Denny, you are way more reasonable than that. I won't even except this to be even close to a sensible answer from you.
