you're saying joshua was just a religious extremist who decided to have the isrealites commit systematic genocide of caanan on his own. it wasn't commanded by god?
I didn't live back then, sorry. As for now.... The New Covenant effectively came in the form of Jesus. He's my main Dude. What He says, goes
to us. i don't believe in objectively existing values. you're arguing with the wrong person. arguing meaning, not morality. i don't believe morality has any meaning independent of the existence of sentient life. if that's what you're saying i agree. however we DO exist for now, and we tend to value our existence and well-being, and certain behaviors are better for that than others.
You mean the book of Torah, Neb'm and Ketubim? Look up the "King James Bible" and tell me if those books are there.
Yeah...It's pretty clear we are on opposite ends of the spectrum here, so I think we're beginning to enter that "agree to disagree" zone again.
You are absolutely right sir. I take the King James Bible as the inspirational word of God. But more importantly, put all my Faith in Jesus Christ. This is as much to do about nothing. Do you think it's right that Stallin killed millions of innocent people because he believed in the "Survival of Fittest" theory in the "Holy Book of Darwin?"
No it's not. It was a completely different time. Ways, customs, and God's directives were in that context. Again, God established a New Covenant - Jesus - that replaced all that had been in place up until that time. Pretty clear if you asked me.
sounds like your answer is yes. so genocide, stoning homosexuals and disrespectful children etc was moral at that time, but isn't now because jesus died on the cross?
accusing what? you compared genocide in the OT to the immoral actions of stalin etc. i'm just asking if you're saying you think god didn't actually command it?
BINGO! This was at an age that even the most civilized felt it was moral to crucify the innocent. Looking back at it now; would we consider it moral? Looking back at 1 year ago; was it moral for our President to keep our soldiers in Iraq, being killed and killing Muslims? And with the blood of Jesus Christ; everyone is accepted. Does it bother you that God can forgive?
No, all I said was I think it's a bit premature to begin these so-called "fire Nate" discussions. Have you even been paying attention?!
But it certainly describes God slaughtering people by the multitude and telling a lot of people to kill other people, most famously, of course, his favorite to kill his own son.
Yes God commanded it. Pretty cool huh? And you nailed it exactly how I expected you to. Why would you think I brought this up? Why would I use different Faiths and even patriotism as what modern man today feels about morality. They want to play God. You agreed with what Rasta said; therefor you also agree that we as a people can make our own moral judgement. Therefor you want to be God. Funny how theology works. I wanted to see how your intentions were, and you passed with flying colors.
Are you saying that what people "feel" determines what's moral? Why on earth should we believe that? No, because it wasn't. And wouldn't God have known that at the time? Either it was or it wasn't. How people feel about it doesn't really enter into it. See, that's the part of Christianity that doesn't even PRETEND to make sense. It's just voodoo. (If that's not an insult to voodoo.) Does it bother you that God is unforgivable? Seriously, look at all the shit he's done.
