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  1. ABM

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    God gave the 10 Commandments to a very primitive society.

    Fast--forward ------------------------>

    God gave us Jesus, His Holy Spirit, and the wealth of Scriptures to figure it out from here. For me, it wasn't too hard. It's why I'm a believer today.
     
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    comparing homosexuality to a physical handicap isn't going to help your case : )
     
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    You're right, and most of the handicapped people I've met believe in God. So I guess gay people don't really have much of an excuse then.
     
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    Don't have much of an excuse for what?
     
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    Playing God and thinking you are justified to know what is moraly right isn't going to help your case.
     
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    An excuse to not believe in God, considering there are scores of people in this world that have it worse than them only to praise God for what they DO have. Mainly an opportunity for an eternal paradise in heaven.
     
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    None of us have "excuses" for sin. God says sin is sin is sin....whether it's stealing pencils from your employer......or offing someone.
     
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    Who says they don't believe in God? Some do. Some don't.
     
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    I would guess many that don't believe have that belief because it is their belief and not a belief only because they were "made gay".
     
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    And talking about homosexuality. I think there is a generalized misconception. Sin is sin and God loves all sinners. If you think Homosexuality is a sin; then in God's eyes; it would be described with someone that cheats on their taxes or runs a red light.

    Who are we to play God? As many of the great philosophers back in the day. This isn't our job to determine morality because we are incapable of all agreeing on what's moral. This is why it becomes a catch-22. If you don't believe in God, then you can't believe in his rules. Then if you can't believe in his rules, then you must play God and make the rules. Let's just put aside the literal word "God". You know the higher power. I believe the great philosophers are referring to God as a "Metaphore". The idea of being a race or civilization that is justified to create rules and punish these rules; even by death.

    If you believe in abortion, then you believe man can make "Godly decisions". If you believe in the "Death Penalty" then you believe society has the "power" to make godly decisions. If you believe that man can kill thousands of animals to settle in their natural habitat, or for food; then you believe man can make "godly decisions". It's really quite simple. I don't know why you are trying to complicate it.
     
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    So their sin is being gay?
     
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    I know a lot do, I also know of a lot of gay people who are vocal against God for creating them that way. None of us are perfect, and we're all subject to sin. That is my point.
     
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    If they are mad at god for creating them that way, that would imply they believe in god then, no?
     
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    It's quite simple that man "plays god"? Sure. I don't call it playing god though, when I make decisions and judgements in life.
     
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    that's a meaningless statement to someone who doesn't believe the bible is true. i'm fully justified in thinking there's nothing immoral about homosexuality just as a matter of common sense.

    anyway i was just saying all he's gonna accomplish is to piss people off. a lot of homosexuals in the USA consider themselves christians, that happen to take leviticus and the opinions of paul a little less literally than you do.
     
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    Okay so you are an Anarchist?
     
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    Well my point is that it's a major driving force behind gay people turning against God. They say if God is so good, then why am I like this? When combined with the lies that society has spread about gay people and God it's easy to see why many gay people aren't eager to adhere to religious belief.
     
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    nope. And don't believe being an atheist makes you an anarchist in any way.
     
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    Actually no it doesn't. And if you look at it "logically" you would understand. Adam and Eve had to leave Eden because of their sin. That sin was disobedience. Just disobedience damned all humanity for the rest of their "flesh lives" on Earth. So in God's eyes, this is a mortal sin. How many times were you disobedient? Humanity has put the severity on sin; not God. Which is why the philosophers put it in God's hands.
     
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    Anarchist and Atheist aren't the same. I didn't say that. I am asking you on your personal belief. You said that we as a individual must decide what is right from wrong. That statement is called Anarchy.
     
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