It looks like the suns without Amare are built for the regular season. They are missing an interior prescence which is what made them almost unguardable last year. The lakers are very patient on offense and it is paying off.
it's kind of funny.. my mom walked in with 11 seconds left. the score was 98-92 and my mom asked "who are you for?" and i said Phoenix. Then she said "so you're going for the underdogs?". It's funny bc that's how it's actually turned out. LA is just clearly playing superior basketball.
If we had KT this series would be different because of his defense, but the Suns just have had a lot of bad luck this season and pretty much stumbled into the #2 spot. It has been a very...interesting year. I at least hope the players can improve from their experience.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Lefty @ Apr 28 2006, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LAKERS!!!!!!Ha I knew the whining would come from the Suns fans</div>It's singular, not plural and I'm not whining.
Damn, lol Amare Stoudemire said: "I would have dominated these guys, man."And thinking about that, It makes me sad he got this injury because he would have made Kwame Brown cry. Oh well, I'm praying he'll be okay next season.
Again, to all those who argued with me and said: Kobe needs to score 30+ to win, you can now poceed to suck my dickJust kidding, but seriously, what did I tell you? Passing = Results, no matter how bad your teammates are
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Apr 29 2006, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Again, to all those who argued with me and said: Kobe needs to score 30+ to win, you can now poceed to suck my dickJust kidding, but seriously, what did I tell you? Passing = Results, no matter how bad your teammates are</div>This really only works against a team like Phoenix, if LA had been doing this all year, they wouldn't be in the playoffs. Different opponents, different gameplans. Lots of the time Kobe needs to score 40 for the Lakers to win, obviously Phoenix isn't one of those teams where he needs to.
Kurt Thomas showing more how important he was to the team. He was so good for us. His stats weren't great but his play was.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lakaboy42 @ Apr 29 2006, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This really only works against a team like Phoenix, if LA had been doing this all year, they wouldn't be in the playoffs. Different opponents, different gameplans. Lots of the time Kobe needs to score 40 for the Lakers to win, obviously Phoenix isn't one of those teams where he needs to.</div>This might be the dumbest most biased attempt I've ever heard in an effort to back up Kobe. You were more unspecific than an essay in pointform. It only works against Phoenix... Why is that? Why does it only work against Phoenix? All NBA Defenses play the same way, some are better than others, but they all play the same way. The Lakers unselfishness has worked big time, as they are not only beating Ohoenix, but they are actually making them look hopeless. The Suns won alot because they are unselfish. The Spurs win because they are unselfish. The Grizzlies win because they are unselfish. It's a pattern the Lakers have now recognized: Spread the ball, and results will come
The gameplan for the lakers is to pound it inside. This is why Odom and Kwame are having good series. Do you actually think we could throw it inside against the clippers? Phil jackson agreed with kobe at the start of the season that he would have to take a large part of the scoring output untill the offense gets it. I'm still skeptical that they haven't got it altogether because the suns are absolutely worthless on defense. Lamar odom had 8 rebounds in one quarters, find me another team that would allow that? The suns are playing like jokes, over-doubling kobe.Phil jackson>You[k-mart], i'd go with what he said rather than some random fan.edit: Do you actually believe that in January if kobe decided to pass like he is now we would be in the playoffs? Are you serious? Lamar odom some days had more turnovers than points, Kwame was airballing lay ups, luke walton brough nothing to the table. Have you ever thought that the triangle system is complicated?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Apr 29 2006, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It only works against Phoenix... Why is that? Why does it only work against Phoenix?</div>Because at this point Phoenix has one of the weakest frontcourts in the NBA.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Apr 29 2006, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>All NBA Defenses play the same way, some are better than others, but they all play the same way.</div> :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: Go ahead and believe whatever you want buddy, every team has a different defenser
Wait, so I said "All teams play defense the same way" meaning all teams play a majority of man to man defense, very little help, and you come back with "Whatever you believe buddy, every team has a different defenser"? Way to prove me wrong dude!And second, I think I've said this about 9 times: The Lakers played the Suns 4 times this year. Kobe averaged 43 PPG, and they lost 4 games by an average of 13.5 points. Kobe decides to start passing, and they win 2 games, lsoe one game by only 5. Do you see a pattern? I know you want to stick up for Kobe. I understand. But there comes a time where you must realize things aren't just coincidence.And yes the Suns are doubling Kobe, and he's passing! That's the difference. Throughout the season he didn't pass out of double teams, throughout the season he didn't pass out the post. Now he is, and it's working wonders.And why do people bring up offenses so much? If you've ever played of watched basketball, offenses are not everything. Yes the triangle is more structured than a normal offense, but at the same time, it's still just basketball. Kobe is passing, and it's producing wins. Simple as that.And you proved my point. Phil Jackson is smart, he does know what he's doing. And guess what he did this series? He told Kobe to be unselfish. He told Kobe to pass, and it's working. There was a report about it on ESPN the other day in fact.Passing = Results
Answer this question, if kobe were to play excatly like he has would we be in the playoffs? Phil doesn't believe so because he told kobe to put the scoring load on his back.Answer this, name me another basketball team in the playoffs who could give up 8 rebounds in one quarters?
You do realize you are dominating the Suns with Kobe playing like he is. And you do know it's the only time he's been this consistent in terms of passing the whole year. Therefore, the only ussumption we can make is that the Lakers would have solid successAnd what the F*ck does 8 rebounds in a quarter mean? It means Phoenix missed, and Lamar Odom got the rebound. What does that have to do with anything? What does that have to do with Phoenix's defense? That was the stupidest statement I've ever read."Well, what other team would give up 8 rebounds in a quarter?"It means Phoenix missed, and Lamar Odom got the freaking rebound. It means the ball clanged off the rim, and Lamar Odom had position on his man, and grabbed the ball. And don't say Shawn Marion and Boris Diaw are mediocre rebounders, because that'll further prove your bias.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Apr 21 2006, 04:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Terrible matchup for the Lakers. Bell and Marion should prevent the Suns from having to double Kobe and the Suns will score a lot. I see the Suns winning in 5 games and a couple blowouts.</div>None of the games have been low outs. They have been doubling kobe. This series at max is going to 6. Hoopskidd, their style is just fine for the playoffs this year especially since they have a defense now, only with Kurt. But does anyone really expect KWAME BROWN to hurt us? lol! Thank goodness we got the Lakers and not the Kings. We won't really need Kurt Thomas as much here. Suns will win in 5. The Lakers will win one game in LA in the only game Kobe scores more than 55...Kwame hurt you last night, odom destroyed you on the boards. One more thing, you need KT back.wtf Eliiite, you think the Lakers are going to win? Please stop being a homer. The Lakers have no match for the Suns dynamic offense. They cant compete. On the other hand. Kobe will get his 40, Odom will get 15. But after that, you never know if anyone else will be consistant at all. That will really hurt the Lakers going into the series. Marion should do a good job on Odom too.Odom is destroying Marion.Kobe Bryant scored 50+ points against them last month with 55+ % shooting. The Lakers lost. Kobe needs 50 point games night and in and out for this team to have a fighting chance, and even then I take Shawn Marion, Steve Nash, and Boris Diaw over Kobe in terms of a superstar matchupIf you actually think the Lakers can win, yuo need to do some research on recent playoff matchupsAgain, wrong.That was fun.edit: Go check out lamar's rebounding stats. In game one i believe he had 14 and in game 3 he had 16 or was it 17.edit: Did you not understand what Lakaboy said? This gameplan would not work in a regular season, we cannot pound the ball in against everyteam like we are against the suns. Did you not read what i posted? Phil jackson told kobe to score alot.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Apr 29 2006, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And second, I think I've said this about 9 times: The Lakers played the Suns 4 times this year. Kobe averaged 43 PPG, and they lost 4 games by an average of 13.5 points.</div>I'm sure the fact that they played all 3 (yes it was 3 not 4 losses) games on the second night of a back to back in which they played overtime games didn't affect that.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Apr 29 2006, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And yes the Suns are doubling Kobe, and he's passing! That's the difference. Throughout the season he didn't pass out of double teams, throughout the season he didn't pass out the post. Now he is, and it's working wonders.</div>Kobe's been passing out of doubles all year, where were you?
My bad, 3 losses. Don't know where I got 4. And the fact you brought up the back-to-back stat says enough. You have nothing else to throw out at me, because you know that it's right: Kobe being passive = Success. And Kobe hasn't been passing out of doubles all year. Where were you? I've seen highlights of Kobe shooting over two players to finish games. I've seen games where Kobe shoots over two players on countless occasions. I don't understand you Laker fans. The way Kobe is playing right now, he is the best lpayer in the NBA without a doubt. So much skill, and he's utilizing it in every way. Passing, scoring, leading his team in whatever way works.The Lakers aren't just throwing the ball in the post everytime. They are giving it to Kobe, running cuts off the ball. Kobe is passing the ball efficiently out of doubles. They are letting Luke Walton run some sets. They are playing as a team, and it's working. I say Kobe is too selfish, and "He's doing it so his team can win." I say Kobe is being passive, is now without a doubt the best player in the NBA, and its working, and I actually am getting blasted for it. For saying the Lakers are good, and Kobe is playing even better, I am actually getting argued with. Come on guys, watch some games. Any games. Passing = Results. There's a reason Philadelphia didn't make the Playoffs. There's a reason New Jersey has lost 2 games to the Indiana Pacers. There's a reason the Nuggets are on the verge of losing another playoff series. Selfish teams lose, unselfish teams have more success.
