If Gortat is good, then the Suns will want to keep him. If he's bad, then we don't want him. So: if the Suns would go for #10 for Gortat, then we shouldn't take it. "But maybe he needs a change of scene!" But why? Because he quit on the team? Because he wants Steve Nash back? Either way, is he likely to play better in Portland?
How is DRTG measured? Could this simply be because the team played much slower when he was in? Gortat: NO. Asik: YES! I'd honestly rather play a rookie C than get Gortat.
That's kind of a ridiculous way to look at a player. So nobody is worth trading for, really, because there team would just keep them. PHX is in need of a rebuild. 29 year old centers don't fit a rebuild. You do recognize that there are teams at different stages of building, no?
playing slower isn't going to alter it. It's per possession. And it's great to say get Asik. Sure, why not. Get Hibbert and Marc also. Let's just list people that aren't likely available, and then cry when we don't add someone like that. I also want Paul George and the #2 pick please. Get it done Olshey! Or you suck.
You say Phoenix is "in need of a rebuild". Well, Goran Dragic is 27. Is that too old? Jared Dudley is also 27. I guess they're in deep shit. Of course, Tim Duncan is about 50. And, of course, Phoenix has the best doctors in the business. Think about it: this is not a blockbuster draft. Do you really think that, if Gortat is a top 10 center IN THE LEAGUE, that he wouldn't be worth more than the number 10 pick IN THIS DRAFT?
I think Asik is more likely to be available than Gortat, frankly. Houston has a real shot at Howard, in which case Asik is expendable (because you can't play them both at the same time, and next year Asik would be a $15M backup). Meanwhile, Phoenix has nobody behind Gortat and no shot at Howard.
PHX was trying to trade Gortat at the deadline for a pick in this very draft as well. They knew at that time that the draft was not all that deep. (Which overall is a myth. - This draft is deep - that is why they want another pick - It just isn't star-studded at the top).
I am on my phone right now but it is easy to look up. PHX and OKC were discussing a Gortat for for TOR's 1st rounder. That pick ended up being #12. As any team would, I am sure they were trying to get a pick as high as they could. No team would bite though so it is pretty obvious that a team didn't want to part with too high of a pick at that point at least.
I'd do #10 plus Freeland for Gortat. That would leave around 7.5M in space to address backup PG and another bench player.
You honestly believe Phoenix would? If they're offloading Gortat for the #10 pick in an average draft, the least they'll want is maximum cap space. They ain't taking any salary baggage.
If Asik was good, Houston wouldn't trade him. If they would trade him, we shouldn't want him. That's your logic, right? See how stupid it is? Fine. Phoenix is not in need of a rebuild They're shooting to win a title next season. Good call.
My mistake. Toronto's pick, but apparently OKC. But, of course, that's worse for you: I can see why a young team like Toronto that already had Valanciunas wouldn't want Gortat, but OKC REALLY needed help in the middle with Perkins's slide, and a half-decent center would be worth way more than the #12 pick. Suggests to me that they didn't think Gortat was that.
It seems to me that we have been reading for about a year that Gordat wants out of Phoenix. Maybe that changed and he is just one of those players that is high maintenance. But it seems to me they are looking to move him regardless of whether he is good or not.
It only sounds stupid when you say it. Because it doesn't apply to Houston, because Asik could still be good, but not as good as Howard who plays the same position. See? It's not really that hard.
He wants out of Phoenix because there's too much sun and he sees the ball too much. He wants a smaller role in a rainier place.
