No, it wasn't Bush's order to pull the troops out of Iraq. http://www.npr.org/2015/12/19/45985...draw-from-iraq-too-soon-allowing-isis-to-grow Still, many had real concerns al Qaeda wasn't done for. And there were some, including U.S. senators, saying the troops should stay just in case things went downhill. They say Obama should have sold the idea, hard, to Maliki. Iraq analyst Kirk Sowell said Obama never really tried. "This is one of the criticisms of Obama — that he sort of wanted the negotiations to fail," Sowell said, "and, so, he didn't even talk to Maliki until it was basically all over." The State Department's lawyers said troops couldn't stay in Iraq unless the Iraqi parliament authorized them to do so, including granting them immunity from Iraqi law. The Iraqi parliamentarians would never OK such a decision, with Iraqi popular opinion staunchly against U.S. troops staying. Sowell saw State's decision as a deliberately insurmountable obstacle. "It was a barrier that was very high," he said, "and there was no way it was going to be jumped over." ... "All of the intelligence that we had gathered, all of the results of the surge, all of the detainees we had in our detention system, all of the information we had coming to us from people on the ground, from the tribes indicated that al Qaeda in Iraq was defeated," said Ret. Col. Peter Mansoor, who served in Iraq. That surge was the influx of American soldiers, and the way the U.S. military organized Sunni tribes to fight against insurgents. The Americans paid them, helped arm them and gave them air cover. One of those tribal leaders, Sheikh Hamid Taees, told me: "In May of 2006, I worked closely with the American side to rid Anbar of terrorism and al Qaeda, and actually we killed a large number of al Qaeda fighters." But by the time of that comment, early in 2014, al Qaeda was beginning to get a grip on Sunni areas again, including that province of Anbar. Many Sunni sheikhs say once the American soldiers left, the minority Sunni population of Iraq suffered under a government dominated by the Shiite majority. That government stopped paying most of them, and even arrested many. (As an aside, we should note that there was a political, as well as a military, dimension to American influence in Iraq: Obama continued to support the government even as Sunni fear and anger grew. "We were encouraged," he said in 2013, "by the work that Prime Minister Maliki has done in the past to ensure that all people inside of Iraq — Sunni, Shia and Kurd — feel that they have a voice in their government." (except it isn't that funny. Obama's Mission Accomplished moment was worse than anything W did, period). ... So some Sunnis were drawn back to the insurgency. ISIS found supporters and gained ground. And, yes, much of that could have been prevented by a big U.S. troop presence. ... So, yes, the withdrawal of U.S. troops helped ISIS. If they'd stayed, they could have bolstered Iraq's security forces and tamped down Sunni anger.
You're wrong about "any time we do leave..." How long would I keep troops there? We have troops in S. Korea still. You break it, you own it. I certainly wouldn't have left if the military leadership recommended continuing.
I do not find a point to make of your post. This Nation took about 9 years of warfare before it could get off the drawing board.
Thanks for the tip on the book. Bet there is a lot more to the story. BTW, you sure talk pretty, but can you skin a camel?
Ha! Danged if I know. I have done my share of deer and elk, do I need more education? On second thought, no!
Here is the sort of strategy we need to deploy, not a frontal attack at all, something to work on to make the world more livable by reducing the chaos. This fellow seems like the right thinker. http://aifdemocracy.org/about/staff/founder-president/ While I see no way for him being an American to become the leader of Islam, but he has the right idea. In my view, our current leadership is full of crap speaking about "Radical Islam" not being the true religion of Islam. It sure as hell is and attaching Radical to it is misdirected. Islam is not just a religion, it is a religion, a set of laws, system of government, and a way of life. I think some if not many Muslims including Jasser, would like to see a reformation of Islam to extract the religion from the the rest of the set so that they could be Muslims in a democracy even with the Constitution of the United States, just as any followers of any other religion. Jihad no more and we could all live with that, including the Israels. But the Muslims of the middle east must do this, we can not. But the right Commander can help facilitate with the proper council and mission assignment.
So, what did Morgan have to say about Obama not going to Pakistan? I hate it when people pretend to be all worked up about events they don't actually give a shit about.
His issue with Obama is that Obama danced and went to the baseball game with a dictator, which showed he didn't take the attack on Brussels seriously.
Conservative Britain is much different than conservative America. You know this. They have super strict laws in Great Britain regarding the ownership of firearms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Morgan He co-hosted his own current affairs interview show on Channel 4 with Amanda Platell, Morgan and Platell. Morgan and Platell were put together because of their opposing political viewpoints; Platell interrogated guests from the right wing, Morgan from the left wing.
Platell interrogated guests from the right wing,Morgan from the left wing So.... Morgan interrogated guests from the left wing. Your post says he interrogated left-wingers. Read your own posts...
Why would he interrogate left wingers if his view wasn't opposite of theirs? You're making my point for me... LOL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Platell Amanda Platell (born 1957)[1] is an Australian journalist. Between 1999 and 2001 she was the press secretary to William Hague, the then leader of the British Conservative Party.[2] ... She has recently written articles calling for greater restrictions on Internet pornography.[7] Right wing? LOL
