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  1. gatorpops

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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    This what you should have posted at the beginning when you joined in and then stopped posting as you would have nothing else to add to the thread.

    Thank you for the stats, they are helpful. Oden will likely do as well at least IMO.

    You sound so much like the Lawyers and Politicians who just argue continually without really adding anything. I do not come to this sight to argue but to see other peoples ideas about the particular threads that I visit.

    I have seen some of your posts on BBF and have found them helpful, however this has not been one of those threads. I nearly didn't go past a 6-10 posts, but it made me a little angry so I kept reading. I was glad I did, because I finally got to some helpful info.

    Peace.

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    It's like when a band first becomes popular. The "noob" fans are despised by the people who saw them play in some little dive bar back when they were starting out.

    The BBF refugees aren't going to be liked by the old-timers on here. We are invading their space. It is just the circle of life or something. :dunno:
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    My belief is that part of what you saw of him in college was an effort to avoid foul trouble. He also was able to score that way because a lot of the players he was going against weren't able to challenge his shot.
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    What if we bring our own groupies? :cheers:

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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    I also didn't see anything wrong with the original post. I just skimmed all the posts but what is the problem I just don't get it. I also think many are underestimating Oden offensively this year. It will take time but by the end of the year I think he will be right there with LMA and Roy for being an important part of our offense.

    My prediction is 15.8ppg 11.2rpg 3.2blocks. I think the start of the year Oden might only be averaging 10+ppg but by the last month of the season Oden will be averaging 18ppg.
     
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    I agree that it isn't a fair yardstick. OTOH, I have no doubt that it is also the yardstick that the media will embrace (and brainwash the casual fan with).
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    I agree with this completely, and because of it, I think it's probably a bit more fair to Oden to use Howard's numbers as a point of comparison. I just don't see Oden getting enough shots to average much more than 15 ppg this season.
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    He had a broken wrist at Ohio State and shot his FTs with his off-hand the entire season. That's one reason you didn't see much of an offensive game from him, yet I even disagree with that viewpoint. He has a decent jump hook that is unblockable, and he has solid 15' range from the high post.
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    I'm just as interested in that as you - and I feel the same way about the offense, thinking that most likely Outlaw will be ahead of Oden, too.

    You can rarely read coaches minds, though, so who really knows. Also, Rudy might eclipse all players as a main scorer - that's not out of the question, is it? (By the way, if there's a Rudy thread, ya mind showing it to me?)

    Hmm many? Idk, I can't really judge that until I see it. We'll see, I guess.

    And Joel will probably get a little more or just as much time without Channing Frye (and James Jones - did he play combo forward in Portland, too?) So I still think he might eat away at a few of Greg's minutes.

    Joel is a guy to give the other bigs a rest...and to take place when the other bigs get into foul trouble. He's a defensive specialist, sure, and he is or will be average in comparison to Greg. At this point, he's the veteran, Greg's a rookie. This may mean something with fouls, fatigue, etc....or this might not.

    Actually, I thought he would be comparable to David Robinson in style - without as much scoring, because of teammates.

    I know, cpaw brought it up...my fault, I simply forgot. Actually, that gave him an advantage in college that I completely forgot about until now - he is most likely very good with both hands. I'll think about that for a while.
     
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    Re: I have a hard time taking anyone seriously who actually uses "LOL".

    Call you out? I can't 'lol' at a statement that I found ridiculous just because I didn't give you sufficient time to make an explanation? You're the one who replied with the antagonizing remark because you decided to take it personally.

    But whatever anyways, let's drop this, no point in discussing this
     
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    Re: I have a hard time taking anyone seriously who actually uses "LOL".

    Take it personally? Why would I do that, you only called me clueless. "Attack the post, not the poster"

    Cooooooool
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    What the hell is your problem?? If you want the proper context, you post it.

    Well, you are.
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    Can we tone down the rhetoric? While I personally think too much was made of the original post, the return anger is way out of proportion.

    A lot is tolerated on this forum, but let's not abuse that by making discussions so confrontational.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    Hey we're not refugees, we're fucking conquering Vikings!! We've come to plunder, pillage, and rape (well OK, not rape I guess). YARR!!!!! :smiley-love:
     
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    Re: I have a hard time taking anyone seriously who actually uses "LOL".


    I was talking about your first reply which started it all in the first place. But nevermind now, you seem to love to want to continue bullshit arguments.
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    There wasn't anything to fucking disagree with. He simply posted rookie numbers for several very good centers and said, "Just some #'s to think about for the next 30 days!" ... How that got turned into a big drama is stunning...
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    Just following the admins lead.
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    Yarr? Well, I guess pirates are close enough to Vikings.

    So who's up for the eternal debate, pirates versus ninjas, who wins?
     
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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    cpawfan hasn't told anyone to fucking shut up or blasted anyone, that I've seen. He maybe was overly critical of the opening post, but well within the bounds of civility.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Re: Big Time Centers Rookie #'s

    Vikings are to pirates what the blues are to rock n' roll. You don't think a Norse Berzerker ever said "Yarrr!" before burying his axe in some poor Englishman's skull?

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    Pirates would pwn ninjas, hands down. Ninjas wear pajamas in a fight.
     
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