Winner: The OkieFirst of all, this was a very, very solid debate, and could have gone either way. What it all boiled down to for me was that I felt Okie made his points more clear and rebutted PF11's arguments very well. I also felt that PF11 failed to clearly understand a few of Okie's points, which ultimately hindered some of his counter-arguments. Nevertheless, great job from both of you, and congratulations to Okie for moving on to the second round.
