Plausible destinations for our vets?

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  1. BankTeller

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    What is the best package you can think of for just RWIII? I struggle to see any reason for any team to give anything of significance for him alone, whereas attaching him to Ant or Grant in a win-now move for any other team might help us secure that second 1st in any deal for Ant or Grant.
     
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    I heard Timelord salary can fit into the new full MLE trade exception. Anyone know what teams didn't use that and would be able to just acquire him for a pick in a trade?
     
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    i think doing so would trigger the hard cap for such a team. not sure teams would do this for RWIII unless they are: 1) desperate, 2) close to a title
     
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    It would hard cap them but only for the rest of this season. So if it's the last or only trade they make at the deadline it would only handicap the acquiring team's ability to acquire players in the buyout market.
     
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    I don't think desperate matters, but they're may not be many teams that have the mle unused with enough space under the hard cap and yes a legit playoff team. Actually might not be any team which fits all of that criteria. OKC would be the type of team but I think they used cap space or the mle on Hartenstein.
     
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    Yeah agreed the hard cap isn't a big deal at all, especially around the trade deadline.

    It's a lot different if it's trigger July 1st like when we signed GP2 and there's 8 more months of trades being possible.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I still think we can pry a pick from LA.

    I think RWIII could go to a team like OKC. They're thin in their frontcourt with Chet out, right?
     
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    Maybe they’d throw in Lillard too?
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    Sort of a rhetorical question but does CLE make any moves to go all in this year? They don't need stars but maybe more depth??? A playoff series against a fully healthy BOS team could well go 7 games and a Cav is bound to go down for at least a few games between now and then. Thybulle, Ant, Timelord?? Doubt JG or DA would appeal to them because of salary etc.
     
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    5 players out, 5 in. Pelicans are in a money crunch with Ingram so they buy an extra year with Ayton. We clear out our “starters”, see how Ingram looks with the young guys or move him again. Buyout Russell, sit Vincent at the end of the bench, play Rui or trade him, keep Black with the young guys. Obviously I want at least 1 LAL 1st and other picks will be involved.
     
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    If we pry a pick from LA that'll be great, I just doubt we will be able to.

    OKC has the #1 defense even without a center, they're so quick and force so many turnovers. Hartenstein should be back in the next few weeks.

    I'd guess if Timelord is healthy until the trade deadline he likely has the most value and might fetch a Josh Hart level of return with a late FRP. However Grant Ayton Ant have much larger contracts that contenders don't have room for any longer with the 2nd apron.

    I just don't see it being possible that a contender both fits their salary and coughs up a pick. The demand is probably a bit worse for them now that they're having such poor seasons too. Look at Ants %, and hes known to be a big negative on defense.

    I'd strongly expect all three of Grant Ayton Ant are here after the trade deadline, which is so depressing. I'd happily take a worthless Clippers trade return if the alternative is keeping their ball hogging play on the team.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    The Hornets basically don't have a center at this point. Any chance they'd be interested in Ayton?
     
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    I can see it, although looking through their roster to find a deal that's palatable is tough. Martin, Williams/Green, and Micic gets you there $$ wise, but Williams and Green each have 3 years on their deals. If we could find a taker for one of them, I'd do it, however.
     
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    He's a massive expiring contract, that's why he's in trade proposals.
     
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    This is a give away. I don't think you're going to get assets for Ayton. Best we can do is get out of his contract a year early.

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    Milwaukee can't aggregate salaries
     
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    Bucks can't aggregate salary.

    Portis is better than Ayton.

    Also Dame hates Ayton, that's why the Blazers didn't acquire him for Nurkic a year earlier.
     
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    Here's one idea

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    -Pelicans may not want Ayton salary for Ingram but if they can cut CJ's deal who is nearly the same $ as Ayton and just have DeJonte at PG maybe they'd go for it.
    -Pistons add more shooting
    -Heat get role players they'd rather have for similar money. If we didn't have the CJ history I'd probably just prefer we keep him but its likely best CJ goes to a 3rd team

    We get a decent backup big in Stewart on a reasonable deal, and cut salary with Hardaway expiring. Rozier/Duncan wouldn't complain about being backups as much as Simons/Ayton.
     
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    Then get a pick from the Lakers and one from the Thunder;

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    Our lineup would be;

    Banton - Scoot
    Sharpe - Rozier
    Camara - Rupert - Murray
    Deni - Duncan
    Clingan - Stewart - Vanderbilt
    2 FRP

    Flip/buyout/cut all of Vincent/Kenrich/JHS/Wood/Hardaway
     

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